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Everything matters more than Harry Potter. Harry Potter is fantasy slop, it is insanely unoriginal in so many ways. There’s better stuff out there to read and support. I don’t understand why people go gaga for this shit.
That’s because they’re books for children. Has everyone forgotten this?
The average Harry Potter fan is still nostalgic for their lost childhood innocence I guess.
Childhood nostalgia is a pretty big deal for nearly all humans. That is why a Charizard card sells for 10k. There is something in your life that you miss, it is just not Harry Potter.
A lot of people look back for many reasons and everyone has their own attachments. It is upsetting to lose an attachment and have part of your childhood tainted by the present.
Let people grieve for the past, it is normal and healthy.
Everyone expects media, other than their favorite, to be perfect.
Holllld up. No reason to act like kids don’t deserve media of a higher caliber, or that media created with them in mind can’t be just as enjoyable for adults. Harry Potter is far from my hyperfixation but I can’t stand these arguments no matter where they crop up.
Oh they certainly do. It’s always saddened me that these books are what grabbed the imagination of a generation when Terry Pratchett’s books were right there.
But that said, they did get a lot of kids into reading and I hope they explored further. It feels like a lot just hyper-focused on HP, though.
Things are allowed to be kind of bad and people are allowed to like them anyway.
Things are not allowed to be bigoted, of course.
That is an utterly useless kind of critique. If you don’t like ‘fantasy slop’ on its artistic merit that is a purely personal opinion that adds nothing to the justified critique of JKR.
Don’t judge people for what they enjoy. It’s just a fact that HP was a major party of many people’s childhood and that many of us dreamed of going to Hogwarts and casting spells as kids.
Belittling that does not strengthen your case against JKR’s anti-trans bigotry - just makes you look like a bigot and a snob yourself.
I’d argue that trans lives matter more than JK Rowling’s life. I’m bringing out the champagne when that bitch dies, and I don’t even like alcohol.
The easiest of trolley problems
Don’t forget that Daniel Radcliffe is a huge trans ally
Fuck yeah dude
Wouldn’t pirating kinda solve the issue? The fiction itself is not inherently bad and if you pirate you are not supporting the author. Normalize pirating harry potter stuff ig.
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Tell me if I am wrong tho i cannot really see dislikes.
The argument goes that while pirating doesn’t inherently support the author, continuing to participate in fandom perpetuates the cultural influence that the author has in society and can encourage others by proxy to go spend money on the author’s work.
That works to an extent, as long as you aren’t talking to your friends about the show, who might then go off and watch it somewhere that supports her.
Well I didn’t consider that because I have no friends-
Jokes aside that’s fair lol. But like of you go to watch it somewhere that supports her it’s kinda not pirating anymore. But I guess uou are more likely to do so if you already consume the content ig. I doubt anyone would in an scenario like this tho. But it is a big world ig.
It’s pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag? Or his there’s one character of every non-white ethnicity? Or the prose kinda sucked? Or how dumb the magic sport is? Or…
Edit: if you want someone from the same place writing genuinely whimsical important meaningful bullshit wizard stories, try Pratchett’s ‘discworld’ novels. They’re far from perfect, but the author died of old while never being outed as a raging piece of shit, so I think you’re safe. There’s also one where all but one of the main characters turns out to be trans or in drag.
Don’t forget the names of the non-white characters are racist caricatures at best.
Caroline Easom did two videos on the women in the books, and makes a really good argument that Rowling doesn’t really seem to like anyone but like, white men. She hates women, particularly women of colour.
For example, you have Parwati and Padma Patel, who are basically the same character, filling the same role; being backup ladies that Harry and Ron to settle with bringing to the ball. The difference between them? One wears their hair a braid! Ooo.
Hell, even Hermione who is ostensibly a main character is treated really poorly in the books.
I don’t think there’s anything about those books that I want to remember.
It’s pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag?
It’s not just a running gag, but the one character who takes an issue with it is ridiculed for it.
Honestly, it makes no sense that Harry is so relaxed about the slavery thing, he’s also from a “muggle” background, and should be affected just as much as Hermione. Then again, he’s a pretty insensitive prick, and shows very little care for the people around him.
Then again, he is a trust-fund baby that grew up to be a cop. So… Guess all that is par for the course.
They’re far from perfect
I don’t believe in perfection, but Terry Pratchett’s books are terrific.
For an interesting and fairly recent magical school story, I’d recommend the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, also known for His Majesty’s Dragon, a historic fantasy series.
try Pratchett’s ‘discworld’ novels.
I second this, but I found even his Tiffany Aching novels tougher to read than HP 1-2 for a youngster.
Chris Ridell has written amazing books for the younger audience. The Ottoline serie (youngest public) were the only books I enjoyed reading to kids for the Nth time and you find a similar humour in Lily Goth and such.
I’d recommend the Kingkiller Chronicle (though many might disagree since the third book may never come out) for any adults who seem to be stuck on Harry Potter and want something that’s actually good and not written for babies.
Pirate, then donate to a trans-friendly charity what the books would have cost.
I guess if you think it’s cool to perpetuate the ideas of a bigoted pile of filth (no)
What ideas? It’ a genuine question I don’t remember much about the story.
I just mean in general but theres also a whole slave species that nobody really talks about.
The fiction itself is not inherently bad
Uh huh…
Have you tried reading books that were written for adults yet?
I feel vindicated every time i see one of these, because i never liked Harry Potter; But now i actively dislike it after watching Rowling lose her head entirely over trans people.
You want some real wizardry? Join forces with Tzeentch or Slaanesh.
Lady Space marines ftw \m/
(I don’t know the equivalent for that in the old world or mortal realms but whatever)
the sad thing is that harry potter was one of the only things that kept me alive before i came out of the closet/transitioned T_T mostly for leaky, starkid, and pottercast not so much anything rowling did
(i like land of stories now more because chris colfer is a FAR better author and person than rowling)
Harry Potter doesn’t matter
I’m glad I found the first book too boring to finish, and never tried again.
Hear hear
The important part is that we can have both
If you’re talking about the original books you purchased years ago then sure, I guess.
But buying anything from or supporting the HP franchise now, financially supports JKR, and that means she can finance more of her transphobic bullshit that hurts all of us. So in that case no, no we can’t have both.
God knows why you’d want to enjoy a story written by a person as awful as JKR these days, though anyway. I know I can’t.
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I just genuinely can’t understand how anyone who agrees JKR is awful could enjoy it now. I used to like it too. But when I think about HP now, it reminds me of JKR, how shit of a person she is, how much she would hate me, and I just can’t enjoy it anymore. It’s been tarnished by association, in my eyes.
You probably live in a country which committed genocides, take medicine which was tested on humans involuntarily, use fossil fuels that will eventually kill so many people, probably eat meat or dairy which is coupled with animal suffering and so much more.
All of these and the HP thing can excite doxastic anxiety in you. A grown up neurotypical adult should be able to overcome it.
You’re oddly very defensive of a fictional fantasy world created by a massively bigoted bitch.
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Good luck with that :)
I was given the books as a kid, I wasn’t really into reading like most children and my pet budgie ended up ripping them apart and covering them with shit. :)
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