• Omega ( purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Basically: The thing everyone worried about and quite frankly knew would happen when Microsoft started buying every studios they could get their hands on… happened.

    Embrace. Expand. Extinguish. It never went away. Careless incompetence. The shareholders way.

    • Rothe ( Rothe@piefed.social ) 
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      Shareholders: “Wow, Microsoft is really expanding by buying up those studios, promising great output for them in the future!”. Line goes up.

      Microsoft then does nothing except investing all of their money into AI.

      Shareholders: “Wow, Microsoft is really streamlining their organisation by dumping all of those useless dead weight studios. Excellent management”. Line goes up.

    • sanpo ( sanpo@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Embrace. Expand. Extinguish.

      That implies careful planning.

      In this case, MS thought just mindlessly throwing money around will somehow bring in massive profits.

      • KubeRoot ( kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        Also pretty sure embrace extend extinguish doesn’t apply to a straight up buyout, it’s about taking a competing (often opensource) technology, embracing it and supporting it, then moving to take control over it by extending it (thus becoming the de facto main implementation, as others struggle to keep up with changes), waiting for competition to die out before finally dropping support, thus killing the technology

    • pnwpixel ( pnwpixel@programming.dev ) 
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      Or user privacy.

      Or valuing their own workers.

      Or how to respectfully be a part of the F/OSS ecosystem.

      Or humanity’s desire to not live in a pollution stream from their AI processing centers (they’re not really “data centers”).

      Or that we all wish LinkedIn would self-destruct under the weight of its own bullshit, and magically blink itself out of existence.

    • iocase ( iocase@lemmy.zip ) 
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      I can’t imagine a company founded on its operating system, now deciding vibe coding that flagship product is a good idea… Especially vibe coding literally all of their software products… Dumb as shit.

      Also everything they make is now a web browser shell with the app running inside which makes everything slow and memory hungry.

  • Not a single fucking CEO understands art and games. They only thing they understand is profit$. That’s all that matters to them.

    Of something can’t generate a profit, it’s essentially useless. Art? If you can sell it at a profit it’s good. Or doesn’t matter if nobody will ever see it. Oxygen producing trees, sea weed, algae? Not worth a damn until it’s cut down, collected, and sold. Food, water, shelter and basic human needs? Gotta make a profit. Don’t matter if we can produce tons and people are going hungry, homeless and thirsty, if we can’t generate a profit.

    Capitalism is a fucking cancer. And these guys are the rogue cells that make it grow.

    • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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      They are blinded by their own goals, and forget how things are interconnected. Or maybe its just arrogance.

      I’ve seen it on the smaller business side too. They want immediate profit, so cut key staff when the work slows a bit, rather than carry the veterans till the next projects. Then complain that things aren’t getting done and the costs to outsource the missing skill set is high.

      While the lower levels are like : this is exactly as we predicted it would go.

    • popcar2 ( popcar2@piefed.ca ) 
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      FYI Doom The Dark Ages was available day 1 on game pass and they were boasting on social media that they had over 3 million players on the first week if I remember right.

      It’s Microsoft’s fault the game didn’t sell. Most people (me included) opted to subscribe to game pass for a month instead.

      • CrypticCoffee ( CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Effectively it was a cost to increase and sustain subscriber numbers.

        If they didn’t gain more for the costs spent, they didn’t have a viable marketing plan, or they did and it just failed horribly. Incompetence at the top.

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      Dark Ages is meh. 2016 was legitimately fresh, and Eternal went a kind of interesting direction, but they legitimately need to take some time and go in a brand brand new direction if they want to make more than four of these games, because the “push forward” formula + lofi sf&f aesthetic alone is not going to cut it on its own.

    • JackbyDev ( JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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      I bought Doom 2016 and it literally wouldn’t even get past the loading screen. I tried every suggestion I found online and none of them worked. I ended up refunding. It’s why I never even considered the next two.

      Edit: Why is this a controversial take?

  • anewfox ( anewfox@lemmy.zip ) 
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    anyone who is hopeful about xbox’s new leadership probably isn’t terribly aware of microsoft’s past. they’ve done this dance a million times. “we’re improving!” -> people believe it yet again -> surprise, they found a way to suck even more now.

  • Onomatopoeia ( Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    Meh.

    Their understanding and objectives are simply different than game devs.

    And game devs understanding and objectives are different than mine.

    MS is a massive org with a research arm with more money than Croesus. God only knows what their C-level and upper management have gleaned from that arm.

    At a minimum, we aren’t privy to their actual objectives, so statements like “they don’t get gaming” are meaningless - they get it as well as they need to for their objectives.

    Not to defend them, just that we don’t really know what they intend, what they’re really trying to do.

    But to call them ignorant would be naive.

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      But to call them ignorant would be naive.

      I used to believe that sort of thing, in my callow youth. They’re rich and powerful, they must know what they’re doing. It’s hard to imagine how anyone paying attention to the news these past ten years could still believe it. There’s no mysterious logic behind their nonsensical decisions. There’s no more than luck involved in any success those decisions have brought them. When they behave like clueless twits it’s because they’re clueless twits.

      • mushroommunk ( mushroommunk@lemmy.today ) 
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        Yeah, I think all their talk about games not being where they want and bringing in a new head of Xbox and saying “they’ve tried everything” to make their games division successful how they want shows they have no idea and are just going shotgun style with changes and hoping something works.

        Hell, the way they let Halo, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout be managed shows they don’t really know anything and just sit around waiting for magic to make them rich.

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        anyone that’s been in a csuite meeting knows it’s all nepotism and good ol boys

        no brains in the lot of them

        just keep failing your way up until your so big the government has to bail you out

    • EonNShadow ( EonNShadow@pawb.social ) 
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      Their objective is the same as every other corporation:

      Provide shareholder value that grows indefinitely.

      They don’t care about games or art, they see them as a means to an end, the end being profit above all.

    • I Cast Fist ( ICastFist@programming.dev ) 
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      Not to defend them, just that we don’t really know what they intend, what they’re really trying to do.

      They want profit. Maximum profit, preferably by the end of this quarter. Failing that, they want monopoly power. The fact that M$ is going all in on AI (it already spent over 150 fucking billion dollars on it as capital expenditure) with nothing to show but “trust me bro” revenue and empty promises should be all you need to know about how far up their own asses the higher ups are.

      When they went on a studio acquisition spree, it was with the intent of gaining market share. This was back when cloud gaming was “the next big thing”, but that it has mostly disappeared from headlines should make it obvious that it was not “the next big thing”. Sure, only Google Stadia was shut down, but you don’t hear much about GeForce NOW, Amazon Luna or even Xbox Cloud. “Cloud gaming” was nowhere near as big as they hoped and is unlikely to be, even with the absurd prices of electronics thanks to the AI craze.

      We are talking about the M$ which is actively sabotaging their own mainline programs for greater profit extraction. Win11 is a mess of unwanted ads, worse than Win10 ever was. They bundled copilot everywhere - teams, office, even fucking notepad - in order to artificially boost adoption numbers.

      All of the decisions that put focus on profit extraction come from higher up. None of them come from Joe Software Engineer, who has to do what the boss says or pack his shit and look for a job elsewhere.