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Mrsilkworm ( mrsilkworm@piefed.social )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 2 months ago

Sony reminds players they don't actually own the PlayStation games they purchased

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Sony reminds players they don't actually own the PlayStation games they purchased

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Mrsilkworm ( mrsilkworm@piefed.social )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 2 months ago
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The company began emailing copies of the PlayStation Terms of Service and other legal documents earlier this month. Notably, the messages contain a section from the PlayStation...
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  • sidebro ( sidebro@lemmy.zip ) 
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    2 months ago

    This excuses piracy.

    And whenever I want to pay for a game, I will do it through GOG.

    • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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      Hard to even want to support gog, with the Nazi stunt

      • julieff7 ( julieff7@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        What did I miss? 😳

        • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/we-made-a-series-of-mistakes-gog-apologise-for-emailing-nazi-symbols-to-people-in-newsletter-about-slavic-fantasy-game

          Tl;Dr

          Sent out very Nazi symbology

          Got feedback from German qa that it was Nazi symbology

          Removed it only from the German emails and sent the Nazi symbology to everyone else

          Oops sorry when they got called out

          • degen ( degen@midwest.social ) 
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            You’re being very disingenuous. Did you read the article?

            The Sowilo rune is part of my cultural and historical heritage. As a Pole, I am fully aware of both its history and the sensitivities surrounding it. Its use in this promotion was intended solely as a reference to the sun, which is central to the game being promoted. What was displayed in several devices as doppelrune is out of our control. ᛋ was displayed as ϟ on several devices (might display for you differently here as well just letting you know). We should pay more attention to checking it on different systems and devices. I also recognise that placing two such runes next to each other could create an unfortunate association with symbols used by the Nazi regime. This was noticed before distribution, and out of respect for local sensitivities, the material was not sent to the German community.

            At the same time, I do not believe that symbols with a history spanning more than a thousand years should be defined solely by their misuse in the modern history. Allowing that would mean accepting that those who corrupted these symbols now own their meaning. As a Pole, I have every reason to treat this history with seriousness and respect. Precisely because of that, I reject any suggestion that this promotion carried an extremist message. It did not. It was a reference to the historical symbol of the sun, nothing more.

            • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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              I’m not being disingenuous, I’m just being less charitable. The point of a dogwhistle is that it has plausible deniability.

            • Mac ( Mac@mander.xyz ) 
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              If it’s so non-sus, then why self censored lol

              • Auli ( Auli@lemmy.ca ) 
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                Its impossible to do anything these days. People well find anything to dig up. Might as well shut it all down.

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    deleted by creator

  • CaptainBasculin ( CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Stuff like this drives the motivation behind console modders.

  • DebatableRaccoon ( DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Then their ‘Buy’ and ‘Purchase’ buttons are false advertising. ‘Rent’ is the word they’re looking for.

  • Lantsu ( manuremy@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    Oh no, how will this affect my offline-PS3 and it’s offline games?? :o

  • ITGuyLevi ( ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ) 
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    If the button said “Buy” or “Purchase”, ownership of that item is transferred (obviously not the IP itself). After you buy it, the supreme court has weighed in that you can make your own backups of “media” previously so Sony can fuck right off.

    • bedwyr ( bedwyr@piefed.ca ) 
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      SCOTUS has endorsed the terms and conditions they make you sign and allowed them to do things like making you waive your right to sue and instead use binding arbitration of their choosing, and making you agree to not actually own this as such.

      What you say was true 26 years ago or more, it’s not now. We are well on to our way of owning nothing and renting everything we own in truth even if not in law.

      • ITGuyLevi ( ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ) 
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        True, but while I have access to something I back it up by nature. They can probably take it off of something they can access but those devices don’t have access to my whole network so I’m gonna stick with my original thought, Sony can fuck right off.

        (Really good points though)

  • fckreddit ( fckreddit@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Then, I purchase no games, which I cannot own anyway. Good riddance. I stopped gaming pretty much all the time.

  • bedwyr ( bedwyr@piefed.ca ) 
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    Remind me to pirate sony games.

  • Kissaki ( Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    If labeling buttons “buy” is illegal when it’s not buying to own but subscriptions, “pre-order” should be illegal too. “Ordering a license” doesn’t make much sense between expectation and differentiation to (owning) products.

    If buttons are labeled “Rent” and “Schedule Rent”, do you think it would have an impact? Significant impact?

  • MrSulu ( MrSulu@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Aaarrrrggghhhh!

  • SpaceCrystal ( SpaceCrystal@lemmy.ml ) 
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    This is why PC gaming is more superior to home gaming consoles that are riddled with DRM. At least you own digital copies of games that you buy on there.

    • ProgrammingSocks ( ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social ) 
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      Only true on DRM free marketplaces. Nearly only GOG. Not Steam - you are very much at the mercy of their TOS, it’s just a better TOS. But we shouldn’t rely on merciful kings.

  • melsaskca ( melsaskca@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I bought the first Queen album on vinyl. Then 8-track. Then cassette. Then compact disc. I finally pirated the digital version. I owned every piece of media that the album came on with the exception of the pirated copy (which I could have digitized from my compact disc). In not one case has a company ever came into my home and said “You have to give that back, but no refund though”. This makes no sense.

  • mk_machinist ( mk_machinist@lem.cochrun.xyz ) 
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    This matches my experience exactly.

  • Hirom ( Hirom@beehaw.org ) 
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    Do players even own PlayStation consoles? Sony arbitrarily restrict what operating system run on hardware people buy from them.

  • PrincessCory ( PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf ) 
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    I dont own a sony or any other console but i dont understand one thing here.

    As far as i know, dvd discs and cd-s had about 4GB memory max if am not mistaking. It was long time since we stoped using them.

    So how can modern games that are like 200GB in size fit on any cd…? 🤔

    • bedwyr ( bedwyr@piefed.ca ) 
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      New computers don’t even take cd’s anymore. They are shit compared to computers 15 years ago. Less ports, task manager doesn’t work, it’s more awkward to do anything as they made everything less functional.

      You can’t take the battery out anymore. If your computer gets compromised you are supposed to just let them spy on you I suppose, task manager is now worthless for sussing out and stopping malware.

      • pressedhams ( pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Sounds like you’re on the cusp of leaving Windows. Excellent.

        I recommend Mint.

      • PrincessCory ( PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf ) 
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        I use desktop pc and linux on it, so am pretty satisfied with it.

    • mysterious_cake ( mysterious_cake@feddit.nl ) 
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

      • PrincessCory ( PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf ) 
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        Wow didnt know about this 🫢

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