€100 says Putler and billionnaires are involved in tricking labourers to impoverish themselves.
That is why the first Germans went into space today.
Well done Saxony… now we have a russian backed right-extremist party with power…
Two of them. BSW is likely going to cooperate with the AfD.
I know this is a bit of a spicy take and I hope it doesn’t age like milk, but this may not be the worst thing for Germany long-term. Far-right populist parties often do a bad job once they get into power. If they screw up running Saxony-Anhalt over the next three years it may put voters off voting for them in the next federal election.
This take is kinda shunned in leftist groups, because that’s what they said last time in Germany.
lol plenty of people said that in 2016 usa
here’s hoping this isn’t well organized
Orban governed for, what? 16 years? PiS in Poland won the last presidential elections and is on track to be back in power in couple of years. Modi has 70% approval rating. Meloni is still leading in polls. Milei won midterms a year ago. So… not sure if what you’re describing really happens that often.
Von Papen thought the same thing.
Literally the only possible ray of sunshine on this rainy day. And that maybe, after all this time, the fucking cdu gets the message that being afd lite will not help them get votes.
No. It’s a cult. AfD can do no wrong in the eyes of their voters.
@TheBrideWoreCrimson @CountVlad47
They’re all cults. Trump, Reform/Farage, Le Pen, etc.
The flimsiest of any rational reason to vote for them, doesn’t matter, it’s the hate & the blame, particularly of groups that can’t answer back or defend themselves. That infuses a deep, intoxicating & irresistible feeling of power & invincibility.
Proportional system usually results in coalition government so the radicals are forced to mellow out. Keeping AfD out of coalition by firewall might do much more harm than good in the long run. This kind of result emboldens them to stay extremist.
History and research shows the opposite to be true. Coalition, talking, taking over their topics, anything legitimizing strengthens them. The only effective counter is a broad rejection across politics, society, including companies, religious institutions etc, and press.
Any examples? In our national parliament radical left mellowed out after joining coalition. It turns out talking big from opposition is cheap. I think current Italian government is also a case of this.
I’ve read an article previously. I don’t think I’ll be able to find it again.
I guess that’s the two possible roads. Integrate into the system with compromise, becoming mellow, or get legitimized by others to be strengthened as an extremist, eventually grabbing power.
Anyone here still thinks there’s a chance that EU will not go through some anti-immigration phase in the near future?
Removed by mod
Isn’t US severely damaging their farming and industry by deporting thousands and thousands of immigrants?
Removed by mod
So what are you saying? That US is not currently implementing anti-immigration policies? Because they clearly do. And it’s a right wing party that’s doing it. And it’s affecting the economy negatively. So what you’re describing (corporations influencing right wing parties and blocking anti-immigration policies) is not happening in US. And EU is less controlled by corporations than US. What you’re saying simply does not add up.
tldr that website sucks
what’s the result and the long term implications?
the fascists likely didn’t get a super majority, but might be in that state’s government as major coalition partner anyway.
long term: political disorder within germany’s inter-state federal politics, possible political firewall (“Brandmauer”) against an entire federal state, possible conflict with NATO over logistics, Germany “being busy with itself” etc…
so more chaos then
which is fascism stage 1 :(
Actually it’s stage 3/4 of 5.
- Fringe: just a couple people meeting in a bar
- Normalization: go out and do protests, interviews, etc. People hate your ideas still, but you just keep saying them until they’re normal.
- Mainstream: established parties get scared, start talking the radical positions to get voters back, thereby proving that the positions are actually fine! So why vote for the cheap copy then, if you can have the original?
- Power: win elections, start dismantling some Democratic institutions.
- Gleichschaltung: take over total power via manufactured coup etc. Then dismantle anything that’s left.
sorry i was being flippant, thank you for the actual list
No, many people don’t know, I just try to post it everywhere
yep awareness is important
Didn’t their main candidate rule out doing any coalition to build a government, i.e. government only if the AfD has the absolute majority?
The minimum information about the BSW while it would be the most relevant. After being treated badly by all other parties, e.g. no recount in the federal election to verify their narrow 5% miss, the other parties rely on them to form a government. Do they support it or will there be new elections?
Also no word about the narrowness of a potential disaster. Without the 5% for the BSW, the AfD was only lacking one seat for a majority. There was the risk of one CDU member changing sides to make an AfD government possible.
That election recount was decided by a court, not “other parties”, and the BSW leadership is openly advocating for cooperation with the AfD, so your argument about them preventing an AfD government holds little water.
BSW made a formal mistake. The other parties still could have ordered a recount.
BSW says no coalition but I think a government with BSW would be more social than a AfD government with one switching CDU member. Now they need 3.
Der BSW-Spitzenkandidat in Sachsen-Anhalt, Thomas Schulze, bezieht dagegen klar Stellung: “Die AfD ist für die Senkung von Steuern bei Reichen, ist für das traditionelle Rollenbild der Familie, die AfD ist klar für die Wiedereinführung der Wehrpflicht. Das sind alles Themen, die konträr zu unseren sind. Und deshalb brauchen wir uns über eine Koalition mit der AfD gar nicht weiter zu unterhalten.”
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/politik/afd-bsw-kooperation-landtagswahlen-100.html
A minority AfD government that sometimes depends on 3 CDU members and sometimes 3 BSW members can pretty much do what it wants because those two parties have different red lines and can be played against each other.
Sorry, I didn’t mean constantly switching but a member or three who change sides permanently. If the CDU is serious about the firewall then they will exclude the ones who vote for AfD topics.
Not every vote is public and kicking someone out of the party against their will takes time and doesn’t make them lose their seat in the parliment.
Wow, I didn’t realize the bundestag’s election committee is a ‘court’ now. I naively assumed it was just other parties MPs protecting their seats.
No, but the federal constitutional court is 🙄
Dude, that tagesschau piece is from right after the election. There was no court ruling or hearing. After that, they dragged it out in the bundestag until late 2025, and this year it finally went to Karlsruhe, where, surprise, nothing has happened either.
Yes, that is the normal court process 🤷
