Post programming questions online and you’ll inevitably get someone saying, “don’t reinvent the wheel.” Why is it so bad to step outside the box?
A few years back, one of my old high school teachers told me that none of his students asked him any questions during an AP math class. That they all just sat there like robots.
And when you question systems of authority and power structures, people always bring up, if you didn’t do anything wrong, you have nothing to hide. I literally just got called a Nazi for thinking it odd that Lemmy moderators should be able to limit your interactions from other Lemmy instances.
By keeping them indoors all the time, have we raised a generation of kids who question nothing? This isn’t normal, people. You’re supposed to question things, especially those with power over you. Humans are self-serving. That means your moderators, betters, and superiors will always serve their own interests over yours.
Greater surveillance and better history/experience in surveillance?
A few years back, one of my old high school teachers told me that none of his students asked him any questions during an AP math class
Does he encourage questions?
Also, create an environment where questions would be raised? Like, letting them try out stuff or showing examples for them to play with and extend/explore?With course completion targets, they may not be having enough time to playa around with it.
Or maybe the kids are decently smart and get the explanation from the teacher(if the context of questioning is on explanations). Or use the internet to get answers.
Or they don’t get the explanation and thus can’t ask good questions and avoid asking fearing the teacher’s response.
I literally just got called a Nazi for thinking it odd that Lemmy moderators should be able to limit your interactions from other Lemmy instances.
Moderators?
Do you mean admins of instances? Admins(or if they are cool admins and the people of the instances) have the capability to choose which instances they want to interact with, right?Which instance were you talking about tho? Was it a Nazi-like one, which got you called the same?
I mean, every student in class had questions and thoughts about how the math could be manipulated when he was teaching us.
Nah, I was talking about making an alternative to Lemmy, where forums were local to each server, but your home server allowed you to login to third-party servers. That way, a balance would be created between mods being able to moderate the servers they owned and users being able to choose the servers they interacted with.
I was quickly called a Nazi, because I valued free speech (what they actually said), and would inevitably want to join Nazi groups – even though I’m Ashkenazi.
You literally said you want a mostly unmoderated online space and that there was nothing wrong with decapitation videos being available online. Unmoderated spaces often foster nazi crowds at a certain popularity, that’s why they called it a nazi platform then. Just look at how 4chan got away with being unmoderated.
No need to create a cesspool/bubble of nazis, CSAM and other vile stuff. Even without moderation there it would become a bubble after a certain time because most people would start avoiding the site due to its content.
Please show me where I said I wanted it unmoderated. I want moderators to choose what they host on their own servers, but for users to be able to use multiple servers. Said that multiple times.
But that allows for fully unmoderated servers, no?
By that logic, so does Lemmy.
No because unmoderated instances will get defederated quite quickly by moderated instances
And, can I not create a separate account on them?
Ergo, just because you unfederated something, doesn’t mean it dies.
The only issue here is whether I should be able to login to an unmoderated server with a moderated server’s account, I believe I should. Since the only content a moderator truly controls is what comes across their own server either way.
Both, my idea, and Lemmy, allow for unmoderated servers.
Is there some internet rule about declarations that include criticism of generations younger than the OP? I just imagine this is coming from someone standing in their front yard, shaking a fist at the kids zipping by on ebikes and mumbling about how OP wasn’t so lazy back in their day, having to provide full pedal power as Jesus and our great nation’s Founding Fathers intended.
I know plenty of folks in generations older than mine that can go thru life glassy-eyed at times. I also help with a scout troop where I cannot get those little shits to shut up with their “why, why, why?” I challenge that you are in a bias bubble. Or maybe you’re hangry and a nice slice of avocado toast would make you feel better?
Edit: okaaaay, I was 50/50 on this being a troll but now all in. The thread in which OP was “called a Nazi” included OP protesting that can’t possibly be true because they’re an Ashkenazi jew. Ranting against younger generations, pulling the “but I’m Jewish” card, arguing for no moderation of Nazi and CSAM trash. What’s next, OP has many gay and/or black friends and they totally gave OP permission to use slurs? Someone break out the internet troll meme bingo cards.
By keeping them indoors all the time, have we raised a generation of kids who question nothing?
This is anecdotal, but in my own contact with younger folks it’s clear to me that many of them are depressed due to climate dread and worried about the rise of the far-right, and they’re smart enough to see their govs are deciding not to do anything to tackle their concerns. I don’t see them “questioning nothing”.
Humans are self-serving.
We have evidence of cooperation for the entirety of human history and prehistory, there’s no way we would have survived long enough to build agrarian societies where acumulation was possible without first developing cooperation among each other. We may have a drive for self-preservation, but even under capitalism we care about others, we’re just taught we can only care about some groups of people (ex: your own family). And even then you see stuff like this: https://gulfnews.com/world/mena/egyptian-teenager-sacrifices-his-life-after-rescuing-six-people-from-drowning-1.500636639
The kids will be fine. Our society is not.
The Gen Z stare is a rational response to the risk that anyone can pull out their phone and start recording.
Fair critique.
Sometimes it’s a waste of time to question things.
For things like programming and math, there’s a recommended way of solving problems, because they’re proven to work. Why are you going down a rabbit hole while ignoring the obvious answer that’s staring you in the face?
You have to learn the fundamentals before you can understand when to break them.
You should be trying to break everything you’re told, as soon as you’re told it. That’s called thinking. You don’t have to voice it, but you should be trying to find exceptions to the rules as soon as a rule is presented to you.
You should have an internal feeling of the subject matter that you compare to your life experiences, and then wonder if there are exceptions to what’s being presented.
People are self-serving. And if you’re not constantly questioning what you’re told, you’re going to be under their control. Pursuing their interests.
Is there a /r/im14andthisisdeep on lemmy?
No, but this sub is pretty much filled with questions just like it. And you haven’t said a thing to any of them. Which makes me think this particular post has hit a nerve?
That’s a lot of “should” statements. Ultimately people are in control of their own minds, and they can define for themselves to what degree its beneficial for them to spend their time trying to “break what they’re told” over getting their work done efficiently and focusing on something else, like art, sports, or baking.
Then you’re getting work done under the terms of what you’re told, which again, puts you under the control of those who tell you what to do. Why can’t you question what you’re doing, while you’re doing it? Are there really people who can’t think while they’re working?
While I agree with you, I will point out that it’s exhausting to apply that attitude constantly. Many just don’t have the energy.
Post programming questions online and you’ll inevitably get someone saying, “don’t reinvent the wheel.” Why is it so bad to step outside the box?
Am I reinventing the wheel when I use ext4 as a key value store instead of Redis? Or a sorted fixed-width binary file to lookup a relation instead of Sqlite?
I think for answering programming questions, the default answers are like a one-size fits all t-shirt. Yeah, they will always cover you up… but usually not “optimal.” Why is that? I think its because these are common solutions that everyone understands even though there are many ways to skin a cat.
It definitely leads to cargo culting.
i think it boils down to: people are stupid, lazy, or ignorant
im not taking a stance. but that would be my shot at the root cause.
those may sound like negative dehumanizing words. but those are very natural,human, vices.i’m surprised to learn that there are enough people of this generation to downvote your post into oblivion. lol
Post programming questions online and you’ll inevitably get someone saying, “don’t reinvent the wheel.” Why is it so bad to step outside the box?
This is totally different… That’s not deference to authority or conformity, that’s fundamental best practices
If you want to do more than play with code puzzles, the first question you should ask is “how have others solved this problem”. And the second should be “how have others approached similar problems”
Code is castles upon castles built of sand… Even the language you use and the rock that runs it are entirely manmade. Coding is a fundamentally collaborative process, and if you want to innovate you need to understand how and why things were done the way they are first.
Otherwise you’re going to write really shit code, even if you’re the cleverest coder to ever live, the code will be shit because it’ll be a huge pain in the ass to work with for everyone else. And probably for yourself too, once your realize why things are done a certain way and understand that it’s usually there’s been a ton of thought and discussion that led it to being the way things are done
If you’re asking questions without comparing the proposed benefits of your new solution to the normal approach, you’re not yet prepared to enter the discussion on how things should be done
So of course the correct response should always be to remind you that you should first learn how others did it. That never goes away, it’s something we remind each other constantly even at the deeper levels of understanding
It’s good life advice too. Humans aren’t nearly as creative as we like to think, as a species we hardly ever have truly new ideas. The way our creative process works is by rearranging the concepts we already know in new ways. If you want to be an innovator, you should be constantly finding wisdom in others and the world around you
As for the deference to authority? That’s because we live in uncertain times and people are scared. It’s more comforting to think someone knows what they’re doing instead of acknowledging the truth… We have very big problems that we are not confronting as a species in any meaningful way.
That tendency as a species is one of those very big problems in fact
At least when I grew up asking questions was seen as rude, especially because I had undiagnosed AuDHD, so I adapted to authority that doesn’t care what you want or think. And to survive you people please. You’re just supposed to get good grades and go to college and follow instructions even if it doesn’t benefit your learning style or abilities. And then you struggle due to big things outside of your control but everyone tells you that it’s because you’re a failure.
That’s not how it’s supposed to go, mate.
