after 15 years, iOS has finally caught up with all the main android features, such as
- very mid ui design
- kinda floaty feeling
- unpolished vibe android itself has progressed little, although it is rapidly achieving feature parity with iOS on “locked down user hostility”. overall both ecosystems look very appealing, energetic, and healthy, for shareholders
Remember to https://keepandroidopen.org/!
Companies are the new de facto legislators manufacturing narratives to push their ideas along. When that doesn’t work, they simply use their overwhelming market share to push us there anyway, replacing our law with policy.
Nations that aren’t instituting forced ID for internet use are still going to be pulled along for the ride unless they have their own digital systems to effectively replace US tech hegemony, and look how long it took to make two thoroughly “mid” mobile operating systems.
If you’re worried about this sort of over reach, then consider trying a Linux distro on your phone, or a spare if you can afford it.
Replacing the complete ecosystem is going to take time and effort, and it’s gonna suck but better now than never.
Companies are the new de facto legislators
Excellent quote. Ill be using that in the future.
Its ‘interesting’ what can happen when people are forced to do a thing a certain way only because an engineer wrote it that way and a company mandated it.
I was going to quote that portion too, and refer to what we currently see going on with these media mergers like paramount+ and whatnot. Same bullshit.
Shittest thing about Android phones are all those third party apps, which you can’t even remove (looking at especially you, Samsung) Facebook, and so on. Unbelievable amount of bloat ware with almost every manufacturer. I would like to have Samsung, but I just can’t stand its UI and those apps.
There’s a program called universal android debloater which let’s you delete pretty much anything you want. I’ve used it and it’s like a miracle.
Still once you get to that stage it’s so much more tempting to skip that and get busy on trying to get postmarketOS going or something.
Crazy how they even let other manufacturers modify base Android. Even the settings menus are all over the place. Searching for specific settings is basically impossible if you’re not on a Pixel or something.
Don’t even get me started on the dev side of things. Makes Windows habit of stacking 30 years of shit look like paradise.
Yes and you have to make Google account, Samsung account and what else before you can use all the features. It’s was totally mess, when I last had Samsung. Their hardware is very nice, though.
This isn’t the case on their flagships in the EU (not sure which is the reason).
I have never had Facebook or other crap preinstalled since my Samsung Note 10.
That said, samsung best be avoided anyway.
I’m done with android (And surely never touched crapple to begin with).
I watched it slowly become “the cheaper iOS” and Samsung becoming “the android of apple”.
But the recent final proverbial nail was their most recent lockdown. Fuck you google. Fuck you since you dropped “don’t be evil” to become Satan itself. At least apple never tried to appear “open”.
WTAF are:
very mid ui design
kinda floaty feeling
unpolished vibesupposed to mean?
✨ Vibe criticism
Where are we on the linux phone OS front? Ubuntu Touch, etc?
The Fairphone 6 and 6+ is something to keep an eye on, specifically with TheMightyCat’s build of postmarketOS. It’s almost fully functional with a close-to-mainline kernel, unlike Jolla phones and UBPorts, which both rely on Android kernels which will eventually stop being supported.
It seems like TheMightyCat just generates code, which cannot be upstreamed to pmOS due to the policy on generated code.
Their generated code has been criticised by some kernel developers because of lack of quality. I think some sensors were accessed without using hexagonrpcd, which means battery usage will be unnecessarily high, which is an improper way of doing it.
Also, mainline kernel support is actively being worked on by Fairphone employees, which know the hardware best. All remaining features will be added in due time.
It seems like TheMightyCat just generates code
This is such an oversimplification and shows you don’t understand how much work goes into this.
Their generated code has been criticised by some kernel developers because of lack of quality. I think some sensors were accessed without using hexagonrpcd, which means battery usage will be unnecessarily high, which is an improper way of doing it.
Again, any source for this argument with the hexagon processor? My patches has been plenty criticized by kernel developers, but so are fully manually written patches, which is the entire point of the kernel review process. Unless you seriously are saying that everyone on the list who has sent a v2 is a bad quality programmer.
When we were talking in DMs i again asked you for your source, reason, or any info for this so i can look at it and fix it if needed, but again you just result to throwing insults like you did in DM.
Also, mainline kernel support is actively being worked on by Fairphone employees, which know the hardware best. All remaining features will be added in due time.
They are being added, by me, by nondescriptpointer, by Luca, by the people at Qualcomm. I have good contact with them for this. I don’t understand your grudge against me.
shows you don’t understand how much work goes into this.
I know how much work goes into it, I’m doing mainlining work myself. It’s really a lot of work.
Also, I have NOT had any conversation with you via DM.
I doubt I would start a DM conversation with you now that you are publishing lies about this. 🙄
I have good contact with them for this. I don’t understand your grudge against me.
So far I had nothing against you as a person, but you are starting to change that rapidly.
Well i wrongly believed i was continuing a conversation then, if that isn’t the case my apolgies.
If you understand how much work it is then how can you say “just generates code”?
For openness this is the conversation i am referring to:
As they are the same instance and the same conversation i believe lenni and erebion are the same person.
When we were talking in DMs i again asked you for your source, reason, or any info for this so i can look at it and fix it if needed, but again you just result to throwing insults like you did in DM.
This paragraph is anchored in the part where once again instead of any source or info on their argument and all they respond with is
There’s one question I have: What is your incentive in buying a Fairphone or contributing to an OS that allows phones to be used longer if you don’t care about our planet?
You know, an instance can have multiple users.
Sometimes people have the same opinion, I am also a sceptic when it comes to generated code, like many others.
I will notify my user that you are publishing a conversation with him. That conversation was not meant to be published, otherwise it would have beeb posted publicly.
There is no personal identifying information there. Just a disagreement.
Its not just the same opinion, its the combination that makes it read like a continuation of the same conversation with the same person: the exact same point, no source, and same instance. That made me suspicious enough to conclude im talking to the same person.
I have published the conversation for transparency reasons, no personal info was shared.
Not to mention DMs on lemmy aren’t even private anyways.
Posting a conversation you had with someone — that did not expect it to be published — is NOT okay.
That’s a shame to hear. I wonder how many of the ideas will be able to be rewritten by actual human developers and how much of it will have to be scrapped.
Why would it need to be rewritten or scrapped?
LLM assisted code is accepted in the kernel, and i am by far not the only user of it, and erebion hasn’t shown ANYTHING why the patches i submit are bad outside of just saying it is.
https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
postmarketOS bans contributions written either entirely or in part by LLMs, so your contributions would be disqualified under those policies.
The Linux kernel, as far as I’m aware, does not have these same policies, so if your changes were to be mainlined, then the Linux kernel changes would then trickle down to pmOS, but your userspace programs/services would still not be able to be accepted upstream, nor would any of the non-mainlined kernel changes.
I know, which is why i’m not sending any to pmos.
We are talking about the kernel here, and i am mainlining all my kernel changes, and many have already been mainlined.
https://lore.kernel.org/all/?q=jorijnvdgraaf%40catcrafts.net
I was asking why would the already accepted kernel patches need to be rewritten?
The already mainlined kernel patches wouldn’t need to be rewritten since they’re already in the mainline kernel. I didn’t see where you specified that before.
But not all HWE is in the kernel. For example, your userspace VoLTE daemon is extremely useful for those who need VoLTE, but would not be able to be packaged in pmOS so other devices can benefit from it, since pmOS is the de facto mainline Linux distro for mobile (there are others, but pmOS is the largest and where most development is done). Same goes for your fingerprint daemon.
There is, of course, also the ethical matter of using AI, as the pmOS page mentions, but balancing issues of pragmatism and principles have been a challenge in the FOSS community since the beginning (ex: “free software” vs “open source”).
On the last point about understanding the code, I feel you’ve shown that you are able to understand the code that you commit, or at least I hope that you do. I’m willing to take you at your word when it comes to that.
It might take longer to find out why something is working-ish than to just get it working.
https://ani.social/u/TheMightyCat
For those interested.
Thanks!
I have been daily driving linux phones as my only phone for over two years. Typing to you now from a phone I ported myself, which has been in my pocket for 3 months now.
Linux phones are where Linux desktops were 10 years ago. A few of us who are lucky can get away with using them because we don’t require proprietary software on our personal devices, but many people will struggle without their Facebook app or their Garage Door Opening app or their Ford Connect app or whatever else. That said, SailfishOS has a decent compatibility layer, but it in itself is proprietary.
Jolla phone is pretty good.
Not sure what happened to the PinePhone
PinePhone did what most other Pine64 things do. Fizzled out.
I have a FLX1s
It’s OK. Its fairly buggy, but the basics do work. I wouldn’t give it to a “normie”, without expecting a lot of complaints, but if you don’t mind tinkering, it’s not terrible.
Context for the non-Norwegians: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/breakingfree/
I like shortcuts, I have some that trigger a-shell and ffmpeg/yt-dlp for conversion and/or downloading. A chore to make so I tend to use shortcuts other ppl made and modify them for my needs.
Shortcuts UI/UX with the power of Tasker is my dream
Some interesting ways to shuffle music and make playlists too, tho I prefer using marvis app for smart playlists (they really should make that a regular music app festure and not just on itunes or wherever ppl do that without the app)
Enshittification is just “evolutionary convergence” for capitalism.
Still ironic that Firefox hates PWAs more than Safari
Well if you don’t like either you can always go for the paid sailfishOS, or a free linux experience like Ubuntu touch / postmarkerOS…
They’re just not accessible enough for the average user, and banking on them is suffering
SFOS isn’t paid; just the proprietary features on the official ports (Android App Support and Exchange Activesync).
Community ports and official ports without those features have always been free.
I got a pixel because I heard I can install Graphene OS on it and when I got it I couldn’t enable OEM unlocking. We’re being cornered.
I had to return the phone TWICE for exactly this problem. I bought a specifically unlocked phone, and got a locked one twice, directly from Google. They just do not care.
I’ve run into that a couple times and it’s super frustrating because there’s 2 different types of “unlocked”, and they’re pretty much all carrier unlocked these days, where an AT&T SIM card will work in a Verizon branded device, but the Verizon ones for sure never allow OEM unlocking. If buying new from Google, I’ve always bought the “Unlocked” option. If buying used, I’ve given the seller instructions on how to check that the option is available. At least on Swappa, it’s been a pretty painless process.
You bought a carrier-locked device. You need an unlocked one.
I presume you returned the device?
Has Apple improved Siri yet? When I asked Siri “What are humans made of?”, she answered “Humans are made of human body.” Fkn hilarious. Meanwhile Android phones have had Gemini for a long time now. And now Apple is giving up on developing their own AI models and will be paying Google to use Gemini for Siri. Might as well just pay less for an Android phone and get the same Gemini model.
We need a co-oprerative phone company and we need one asap!
Well said
