Pornography restrictions being codified into law, adult art being restricted from most Lemmy instances, Tarot readers blotting out the nudity on their cards on Reddit.
I’m watching the Magicians, on Amazon, and I use subtitles. All the curse words are purposefully filled in with random letters, so as not to offend the reader.
What’s up with all the prudishness? Can people knock it off, please?
People have vaginas. And titties. And dicks. And asses. They swear. They drink. They fuck. Why is this generation afraid of that? Acknowledging these things isn’t going to increase your chances of being sexually violated. So, what’s the deal?
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adult art being restricted from most Lemmy instances
That one is probably a liability issue. Especially a problem with real-life porn, but even with drawn material, you’ll often get characters which don’t look like adults. So then the mods would have to review each post, which is too much work, and they’d also likely see shit they’d rather not.
Considering this platform is mostly volunteers, if not fully, it’s just not worth it.As an admin, spot on. People don’t realize that as an admin I and liable for what goes on on my instance. Both financially and criminally. They can kick down my door for things posted, so of course I ban any NSFW, and I have still seen things I wish I could unsee that people have posted.
I always welcome others to spin up their own instance though. They are more than welcome to host it themselves, under their name.
So what’s the worst that could happen if some fake artistic character doesn’t have its drawn tit censored?
If that “fake artistic character” is a minor, that’s CSAM in some jurisdictions, and that leaves the instance admin legally on the hook for a whole range of offenses which are punishable by incarceration, huge fines, and/or life on a sex offenders register, and in some places, chemical castration.
So yeah, not near as fucking innocent as you make it out to be.
I didn’t make it out to be anything, I asked a question.
And what idiot country would not just give a warning and say remove the drawing if someone was offended?
I doubt they would use all these draconian punishments as if they didn’t see any difference with someone raping a baby and putting it online.Because CSAM isn’t something you should be giving ‘warnings’ about.
If you’re drawing something that could be construed as CSAM then you need to have a word with yourself but we’re all adult enough to know that some people just like testing where the line is, or knitting where it is and remaining just shy of it then feign ignorance.
Because CSAM isn’t something you should be giving ‘warnings’ about.
Obviously.
But I think the problem lies in “could be construed as CSAM”.
That is subjective.
I think because it’s such a heavy thing people are extremely paranoid and overreacting/self-censoring their art.
Not into manga/anime of which I know some is definitely over the line but for the rest I have never encountered drawn art (w possibly minors) of which I saw the intention as getting sexual pleasure from it.Anyway, this extreme subject aside people are definitely becoming more prudish IMO.
It’s the major social platforms pushing people to self-censor, mostly. It’s a well-known phenomenon called “algospeak”, where modifications to the language intended to bypass social network censorship end up seeping into in-person interactions, such as the verb “to unalive”
Very much so.
I am Danish. A lot of our culture and humor used to revolve around the naked body and sex. This has totally changed within the last 20 years.
My personal theory is that social media censorship of anything sexual is the reason. America exported their prudish culture and it is erasing our culture.
not people. the system is getting more prudish.
Have you completely forgotten the war on drugs? We never stopped letting the Puritans run things in this country.
it’s not a generational issue, but a marketing issue. It’s not “ad-friendly”. It’s also a fascism thing. Performative moralizing and pearl clutching that rightoids use to smokescreen their pedophilia and their other favorite forms of rape. If they can construct an image of being hallowed crusaders of family values, it makes predation easier. because, you know, camouflage. It doesn’t even have to work or be convincing for everyone; all they have to do is hijack the ideologically-possessed simps who line up to suck the same fuhrer’s cock and the flock will immediately surround the wolf to defend them from any scary accusations, and even shield them from accountability when they ARE caught.
Even the fascists who aren’t pedophiles or into other forms of rape are strongly against the idea of women having the autonomy to choose sex work of their own volition.
Hmmmm yeah! Yeah, agreed
And also, Even the fascists that allegedly aren’t pedophiles or other forms of rapist are all, every single one of them, enablers of rape in general and pedophilia specifically.
I’m watching the Magicians, on Amazon, and I use subtitles. All the curse words are purposefully filled in with random letters, so as not to offend the reader.
IANAL, but in my opinion this violates the “functionally equivalent services” test of the Americans with Disabilities Act Title IV, and in a just world they would get hit with a massive lawsuit.
It’s forced on us by rich Christians
If by “this generation” you mean the generation of people owning companies (that don’t want their advertising associated with this stuff), the generation owning social media companies (that fold to the real or imagined pressures of advertisers), and the generation who writes the law… then I still have no idea.
It’s not about advertising.
Alright. What is it about?
There are several issues here.
The lemmy instance thing is because people don’t like being spammed by onlyfans ads, torrents of AI generated porn spam, deluges of random penises men are happy to post assuming lots of people want to see it, and in some cases operators have ethical objections to porn production itself, or don’t want to deal with the possibility of rehosting and being responsible for content containing minors being hosted on their services and the legal headaches that entails.
The last one about legal problems has arisen due to increased awareness yes but also increased pressure. The amount of hosting companies out there who look the other way for violations are fewer and fewer by year out of their own fears from payment companies, technical partners, etc. Even accidentally hosting that stuff besides the risk of getting you raided by cops at 2am and having your whole life gone through (while automatic weapons are being pointed at your face) could lead to your hosting being terminated and having to pay more and more each time that happens as you move up from the cheapest hosts to the ones left. It’s also a hassle to move.
Censoring tarot cards, swear words in memes and on TV that’s an example of corporate prudishness. That’s an example of fear of upsetting advertisers, of people self-censoring to go viral, to avoid Zuckerbook removing their post and actioning their account because Zuckerbook has this weird notion of being family friendly and appealing to advertisers. So much of that lays at the feet of advertisers and Christian pressure groups who exist to beat the drums of fear of losing advertisers and pressuring those same advertisers to pressure the tech companies.
It’s about risk compliance for those tech companies as well. Your bank would rather close all your accounts and refuse to do business with you ever again if you have less than several million dollars with them if you bring too many automated red flags. They won’t care you have half a million with them, they won’t care you protest your innocence, even the chance the system is right in flagging you a risk and getting hit by authorities leads them to a behavior similar to self-censoring where they self-police overly aggressively out of fear because you’re just not worth the trouble and risk.
In the same way these companies don’t care about artistic expression, they don’t care about freedom of speech, they care about maximizing profits and that means minimizing compliance risks, minimizing risks of being legally actioned because there’s even a chance what you shared could turn out to lead to legal liability, and minimizing risks of upsetting overly sensitive prudish customers and advertisers.
So at it’s core its driven by a capitalist drive to avoid government scrutiny, fines, interventions, and by that same desire to offend the least amount of people and not upset advertisers by placing their ad for a new burger next to erotica art or bared human body parts or naughty words.
This is organized purity insanity. Well funded.
yes they are, US religiosity and prudishness is coming for us all.
It’s been a slippery slope, Bush had aid pinned to family first values, Obama had Hillary tie aid to stopping sex trafficking, (not on Epstein’s island though apparently) reads well in the news… alas it played out in the streets of Cambodia that women with condoms were jailed because why else you need condom unless you’re a hooker ? also gave them a reason to stop and frisk women. My partner and I were living there back then, what a fucking mess.
i don’t think i’m particularly prudish. i’ll routinely go out to clubs and do demos with like nothing on, but that’s in a setting where it’s expected. i also appreciate not having sex shoehorned into everything i watch or read.
like yeah it’s a facet of existence, but it’s not everything. i’d rather have it be meaningful and intentional instead of everywhere.
i also appreciate not having sex shoehorned into everything i watch or read.
And swearing. I swear, but not gratuitously.
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People have viginas
Name one.
LOL 😂️
Your mom
