do you have short bursts of motivation, then need a long break to recover from what you did? do you have problems with focusing hour-long at a specific task? do you feel like napping at random times throughout the day?

well, that’s because you’re an apex predator. a lion can only sprint for 1 km before it needs to cool down, or its body would overheat.

  • I think adhd is far more likely to be a ‘default’ trauma response prevelant in folks genetically predisposed to autism.

    Absolutely not. If the correlation is causal, it goes the other direction (i.e., it’s hard to get through the developmental period as a neurodiverse person without trauma).

    how much difficulty clinicians have telling all these conditions apart

    Clinicians who have difficulty telling them apart should recuse themselves from attempting to tell them apart. Unfortunately for clients, insurance (at least in the US) requires a diagnosis for treatment, so if you don’t have a diagnosis yet, you’re gonna get a quickly determined one by a clinician who’s doing it because they’re required to rather than because they actually know what they’re doing

    And the fatigue and other autoimmune issues which we [adhd/asd/ptsd] also seem to commonly deal with is likely just the toll all this stress has on our bodies.

    This is at least partially true, but also outside my wheelhouse so I don’t intend to get into it, but I wanted to balance my comment a little instead of just calling out the parts where you’re wrong

    Source: Am therapist who specializes in ASD & ADHD and also has ADHD, ASD, & cPTSD

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      If the correlation is causal, it goes the other direction (i.e., it’s hard to get through the developmental period as a neurodiverse person without trauma).

      And [my theory is] some neurodiverse people develop adhd in response to this trauma. (Is that not what I wrote? Apologies if not, it was my intention but communication isn’t my strong suit.)

      I’m not in the US or in the medical field, so my experience with clinicians, diagnosis and the audhd and mental health system and community is likely quite different to yours, but I agree that diagnosis should be avoided by imcompetant doctors.

      Sadly it’s basically impossible to call out incompetence as a patient, especially if you’re dealing with the NHS psychiatric services.

      • And [my theory is] some neurodiverse people develop adhd in response to this trauma. (Is that not what I wrote? Apologies if not, it was my intention but communication isn’t my strong suit.)

        No yeah I understood you. I should have been more specific and said that it’s hard to get through the developmental period as a person with ADHD or ASD without developing trauma. That’s what I meant by the causation going the other way. Growing up in a modern neurotypical world with an ADHD brain can itself be a traumatic experience

        I’m not in the US

        I imagine it’s similar in most places, that they have to give a diagnosis in order to provide any treatment

        Sadly it’s basically impossible to call out incompetence as a patient

        Yeah :/