Which of the two pro-corporate neoliberal parties in the US care about the environment again?
The one that doesn’t actively try to destroy it.
Is this some kind of trick question?
Most people want to eat dinner but many refuse to pray for it.
If so many Americans cared about democracy and their way of life, THEN WHY THE FUCK DID THEY VOTE FOR THE ORANGE FACED CRIMINAL?
Fucking lemmings… that’s why. They’ve been programmed. And the programs are still running. It may be too late.
" And now back to our regularly scheduled brainwashing!"
Do they care about climate? Do they drice smaller cars, use renewable energy and eat less meat? Or do they just care with thoughts and prayers?
In the USA, citizens aged 65 and older are 15% of the population, but 50% of the vote.
As it stands, the future is decided by people who won’t be there to suffer it.
I must have misheard, thanks!
Love the why should I vote crowd. Because if enough of you do it they’ll start doing the things you want. It’s because you don’t vote they don’t care. Or don’t and watch again as the boomers transistion your tax money into cruises
which oil executive should i vote for
The one that doesn’t invade Venezuela to take their oil.
Is this some kind of trick question?
Preferably none.
But if you only have those options, you better voter for the better one of things will get even worse than they are now.
So please, go vote. Don’t pretend like it does nothing.
read W.E.B DuBois to understand why
- i do vote
- you telling me to does harm
he was even more important then MLK and was America’s best epistemologist. come back in a year
Oil/lobbying industry spent decades demonizing and deflecting global activism, by portraying them as eco-extremist/ecoterrorist. the lesser known method is them funding campaigns or even companies to tell you to buy thier “low carbon emission footprint” products so they dont have to reduce thier own emissions. and also funding “protestors” to deface public property.
Neither party campaign’s on climate policy so the problem is the party, not the voter.
Not sure where you saw that but it’s actually central to the DNC platform.
Personally, I think this is more of a media diet issue. Climate policy isn’t very engagement-baitey so the Social media algorithms don’t push it.
Platforms are not the problem, the problem is that most politicians do not really believe in implementing them
I think the current problem is that the politicians who believe in implementing them don’t have the numbers to actually do so, and voter apathy gets in the way of achieving those numbers. There’s been a ton of climate policy over the years, it’s just that for the last couple decades the party that pretends climate change doesn’t exist has been stonewalling climate policy because it would hurt corporate profits.
Biden forced rail-workers - who were striking for safer conditions - back to work. Less than a year later, a train derailment caused a massive chemical spill is Palestine, Ohio.
Everyone conveniently leaves out he got them more sick days, etc. weeks later.
Make your point but let’s at least involve all the facts.
Bernie led that charge at the last minute, and it still ignored every other demand they had. Notably, the ones that would have made train derailments far less likely.
Don’t look at me. I voted for Godzilla
if clearly motivated people don’t want to vote for you, it’s not an indication that they should lower their standards, it’s an indication that you should have standards to begin with
it’s cute how liberals here are so resilient to reality. people don’t care for slow, steady, painfully incremental progress (if even that) when every summer is so much hotter than the last one.
What’s not cute, is how there are people fucking stupid enough to not understand the simple concept that when your opponent is a anti-environmental fascist-
YOU VOTE AGAINST THE ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL FASCIST.
It can’t get any easier, yet you people STILL don’t seem to understand it. Let me put it another way:
When you have cancer- YOU TAKE THE CHEMO. You live to fight anther day. You don’t say,
“Yeah, no. Chemo sucks. I don’t want to get sick, so, let the cancer take me.” This is PURE ignorance.
Well, if the supposed opposition is anti-environmental fascist-supporters, then they aren’t going to get people out to vote.
Your analogy is severly flawed. The Democrats are less like chemo, and more like alcohol. It makes you feel like the pain is going away, but in the end, it’s only helping the cancer.
Exactly. If they aren’t a Fetterman, then vote for them no matter what.
The only way voting will be ever be effective again is if we shift the Overton window back. The only way to do that (in regards to voting) is to vote for leftists at the local and state level. The ones that actually win are running under the Democrat banner.
That’s pretty much the only way we get out of this mess democratically speaking. That said, we do need to be doing more than just voting to have any actual chance.
Check any political thread here or elsewhere and you will hear a regular refrain of “both parties are the same” and “voting doesn’t matter because it’s all rigged!” A huge percentage of Americans have fallen for that line of bullshit and now don’t bother to vote at all no matter what they think is important. It’s a sad fact that propaganda works.
That’s not Americans. There’s a fuck ton of psyop propaganda here.
Probably because both party do not care about climate, they should still at least vote for the green
bOtH siDeS! riTE?!?!!
Take the psyop bullshit elsewhwere, Ivan.
It couldn’t be that they want a different strategy than the failing one the Democrats keep pushing. It has to be that they are a Russian operative, riTE?!?!!
Poor cultist, keep crying
The irony. LMAO!!
If a democrat politician is good than yes I support people voting for them so yeah I am not a cultist. The cultist is dumb people like you who support a one party system.
Yeah. You chose to throw away a vote against fascism, I voted against it.
One of us is dumb, bud, but I don’t think it’s who you think it is. But that’s okay, considering the context here, there is really no way you could possibly have understood.
I love how libs think that voting for the “opposition” party that helps the fascists is not the dumb, cultist move.
Because the Democrats also have a terrible climate policy?
But… But… Al Gore?
Wait. They have a policy? Maybe the progressive wing, but that’s too small for an official policy.
They were terrible but I’d take a C- over the current F just saying. Not voting won’t make them care more about climate change, hearing it in primaries from engaged voting populace is what dictates policy. It’s why boomers had so much sway because they know they’ll vote.
C- is drastically better than the Dems environmental policies and practices. They were absolutely F
No corporate donors and support dictate policy.
We got public healthcare in Canada through direct political action, respectfully there is room for both strategies.
The amount of “bOtH SiDeZ” propaganda bullshit I’m seeing it the comments here leaves me no doubt that the world is cooked.
I mean, these idiots couldn’t get fucked enough to stand in the way of a fascist, because their entitlement didn’t allow little purity test to even think that there was a difference.
Now we have full blown fascism, but at least the grnocide continued unabated!
I mean, these idiots couldn’t get fucked enough to stand in the way of a fascist, because their entitlement didn’t allow little purity test to even think that there was a difference.
Lets look at the purity tests:
- Stop making the climate worse
- Start going after the companies that are making the climate worse
- Stop supporting a genocide
- Stop supporting the fascists
Considering that the Democrats failed all of those easy tests (and many more), is it really that hard to understand why people have a hard time seeing the difference?
Can you share the list of Democrats running specifically on climate change as an issue?
You can find them yourself if you’re interested. But we both know you aren’t.
Thanks for confirming that they don’t exist
LMAO! See, this is exactly why I didn’t bother. I expected this ignorance as a response and I got it. You people think that because I won’t explain to you a thing, the thing simply doesn’t exist.
So if anything isn’t explained to you, do you just folded your arms in a pout and just assumed that everything that anyone says is a myth? Dude. Do the work. Don’t pretend something doesn’t exist just because someoe won’t spoil you by doing the work for you. Earn your knowledge.
Or are you afraid you’ll price yourself wrong?
Is it safer to just accuse others of lying to you when they refuse to do your work for you than it would be to put forth the effort just to find out you were wrong the entire time? Yeah.
Cognitive dissonance is a bitch it seems.
This is why I didn’t provide a source for my claims! Because I’m so smart that anyone who doesn’t immediately believe me is wrong! The burden of proof for my claims is on everyone else, not me!
You won’t be seeing much in the way of “climate change” messaging this time around because it’s been rolled into “reducing energy costs” messaging. Since LCOEs for solar and wind have fallen below natural gas plants, which were previously the cheapest if you ignored the SCC, politicians have decided to rebrand. Campaigning on cutting energy costs polls much better when the economy is in poor shape so this is more effective.
It’s also worth noting that the last time that Democrats controlled the legislature and the executive they took substantial action;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act#Energy_and_climate_change
