• kent_eh ( kent_eh@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Killing a child’s family is a really effective way to create the next generation of people who want to destroy you.

    Apparently that’s not obvious to the Israelis, since they keep doing it.

  • Wataba ( Wataba@sh.itjust.works ) 
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    God, reddit was beyond revolting with the whole ‘hurr theyre homophobic in Palestine, Gays for Palestine is full of idiots’. Pretty sure it was prevelant here too early on.

    • Sacha Baron Cohen got beat up and almost killed by Jewish fundamentalists while doing his Bruno character in Israel.

      Pinkwashing propagandists never mention that Israel does not have marriage equality. It’s not some pro-lgbt utopia. The fundies over there do not hesitate to throw stones at even Jewish women for showing skin if you’re in ‘their neighbourhood’.

      Likes of Sam Harris, John Cleese, Douglas Murray, Bill Maher and many allegedly left-leaning, even atheist, people lose their minds and cognitive abilities when muslims are mentioned.

      Is islam pro marriage equality? No.

      Are there gay muslims who get gay-married and live a gay ol muslim life? Yes.

      How do they reconcile the contradiction in their faith/scripture and lived experience? The same way gay religious folks do in any other religious community.

      Do the bombs of racist zionists differentiate between anti-lgbt, pro-lgbt and fabulously-lgbt muslims? Fk No.

      Christianity or Judaism did not bring us marriage equality either. Their “Judeo-Christian sharia” pushed the hero of WWII, Alan Turing, to commit suicide for being gay.

      Homophobia in muslim communities should be challenged. But don’t put this burden on the helpless Palestinians enduring a Western funded genocide. Especially when West itself doesn’t treat all queer folks fairly.

      There are 2 billion muslims out there. They should ask Trump’s allies like Dr Mehmet Oz, Saudis, Qataris, Khaleejis, Marlaina of Alberta, Scott Moe of Saskatchewan or Donald’s favourite Field Marshall in Pakistan why they don’t treat their LGBTQ+ citizens fairly.

      • mirshafie ( mirshafie@europe.pub ) 
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        Sam Harris and Bill Maher are fake atheists. They absolutely hate absolutely everything about Islam and Christianity too, even the many good aspects.

        But they are so Zionist that they won’t see the flaws in Judaism (which is arguably much worse than both Christianity and Islam).

        Fake. Atheists.

  • mgorden ( mgorden@lemmy.ca ) 
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    11 days ago

    If you can accept the necessity of genocide to fulfill your purpose, then just about anything can be made to make sense. Occam is spinning in his grave.

      • Yes. Every named person on your list was famously very socially conservative. None of those people were progressive (the opposite of conservative). In fact, each of them pretty specifically called out progressives in their respective countries as the enemy of the people and targeted progressives to be imprisoned snd murdered. Their behavior rhymes perfectly with that of modern conservatives.

          • Simply untrue. Even by their contemporary standards, they identified as and appealed heavily to the most conservative members of their populations. In fact, throughout history, these countries’ most conservative citizens have always been the only ones to defend them.

            • He literally dismantled the traditional social structures. Was a radical left-wing leader. But somehow, you want to pretend he was a conservative?

              Just because he didn’t advocate for unlimited genders, he was a conservative! Lol.

              You’re a USian communist?

              • The conservative trolls are out today! You are now repeating Fox News talking points. By your definition, Trump is a progressive! 😆

                Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. It is not possible for a conservative to enter any conversation in good faith because all conservatives are patholigical liars.

                Just own that conservatism is fascism. It’s accepted in the mainstream now. Even CBS bends the knee to fascism. It’s OK, fascist. You can just be yourself now. 🤣

                • My country kept our fascist bigots out of our highest political office. I helped and voted to keep them out.

                  I don’t watch fox. Don’t watch CBS. Don’t even own a TV.

                  Your non-answer is enough to answer my question. :)

                  The whole world doesn’t work or play by USian rules. People don’t become “conservatives” or “fascists” just because delusional commies from a wealthy western country label them as such.