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alessandro ( alessandro@lemmy.ca )  to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 day ago

Tim Sweeney: "Besides taking 30%, they’re [Valve] also taking a potentially even larger fraction of developers’ revenue and livelihood by undermining their business with these AI hate campaigns."

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Tim Sweeney: "Besides taking 30%, they’re [Valve] also taking a potentially even larger fraction of developers’ revenue and livelihood by undermining their business with these AI hate campaigns."

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alessandro ( alessandro@lemmy.ca )  to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 day ago
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  • belated_frog_pants ( belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org ) 
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    He’s such a useless douchebag. Shut up about steam and stop trying to slop your way to profit.

  • subverted_per ( subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    This is giving me some thoughts so I m writing them out here.

    On the one hand, i can see where ai can be used as a tool in the production of games and art and writing. Especially early on in the ideation, development stage.

    On the other hand, experts in those parts of production, the designers, storyboarders, writers etc. all seem to think that humans do those jobs much better than ai.

    As a consumer of goods and services if i see ai in the end product i will think it’s cheap. Which for some things that makes sense. An independent writer publishing their first book with their own money might not have the funds to spare for a human to make their cover. So they use ai. An indie game designer might have a great idea, but cant write or shit, or do character designs. In that space it makes sense.

    However ai taints every aspect of the project. If i3 see an ai image on a book cover, im going to assume that ai was used in the writing. If sqeenix is going to use ai on a kingdom hearts promotional image im going to assume they’re using it everywhere else in their production. if i buy their product at all im going to be looking at every inch of it to see where the human hands stopped. But I’m not going to pay premium prices for cheap ai slop.

  • TwodogsFighting ( TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id ) 
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    Fuck off with your slop, Sweeney.

  • farmgineer ( farmgineer@nord.pub ) 
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    I hate most things people would call ‘AI’ for a variety of reasons. Hiding its usage in something just means I’m not going to trust your platform at all, not suddenly stop caring about the issue. It’s a problem steam has as well with not properly enforcing meaningful disclosure or a vetting process. Hell, the recent event didn’t even have a filter for AI so I spent no money on steam, either.

  • schroedingersKoala ( schroedingersKoala@piefed.ca ) 
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    Good grief, Tim Sweeney is such an insufferable cunt.

    • Die4Ever ( Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ) 
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      It’s too bad, I really like his early work. Jill of the Jungle, Epic Pinball, Jazz the Jackrabbit, Tyrian, all the Unreal Tournament games, Unreal Engine 1/2/3

      • egregiousRac ( phailhaus@piefed.social ) 
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        Epic Pinball was made by the founder of Digital Extremes. He and the team he built there did a ton of Unreal through UT2003. UT2004 was the end of the partnership, with Epic handling the new design work and Digital Extremes being relegated to art, UI, and a few maps.

      • Nik282000 ( nik282000@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Tyrian and UT:GOTY were two of the greatest games to come out of the 90’s.

  • keisatsu ( keisatsu@infosec.pub ) 
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    Sweeney is such a fucking clown

  • supersquirrel ( supersquirrel@lemmy.ca ) 
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    What a mega loser…

    • kurcatovium ( kurcatovium@piefed.social ) 
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      You might even say he’s an epic loser…

  • Almacca ( Almacca@aussie.zone ) 
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    He’s so jealous of Steam you can smell it.

    • mnemonicmonkeys ( mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ) 
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      He calls Valve a monopoly, but he doesn’t actually hate monopolies, he hates that he’s not in charge of one.

    • Die4Ever ( Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ) 
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      IDK why, he has plenty of money lol

      • Smaile ( Smaile@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Greed

        • wyldrstallyns ( wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          And his fear of inadequacy, of course.

  • one_old_coder ( one_old_coder@piefed.social ) 
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    There is no AI hate campaign, it’s natural hate!

  • soratoyuki ( soratoyuki@piefed.zip ) 
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    Has no one sat Tim down and explained to him how much free marketing he gives Steam?

  • bigbangdangler ( bigbangdangler@reddthat.com ) 
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    Tim, you’re just dumb. You think people don’t see right through your business-brain bullshit, and it makes you look even dumber. Sit down and shut up.

  • NoForwadSlashS ( NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social ) 
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    Stop literally taking my money by making me work hard on my project.

  • 0xKesh ( 0xKesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Ah there’s the Tim Sweeney we know! Balance has been restored

  • Smaile ( Smaile@lemmy.ca ) 
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    All digital storefronts take 30% btw

    Edit: Most All*

    • codydodd ( codydodd@lemmy.ca ) 
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      And selling to brick and mortar (which doesnt exist much anymore anyway) ends up costing even more.

      The big take away is him arguing AI discloser is somehow an afront to developer privacy. Bullshit. I like the response in the screenshot: Sweeney is telling us to be okay buying food without ingredients lists. AI slop is cancerous to the industry and the vast majority of indie dev communities for instance despise GenAI and want the disclosures.

    • mnemonicmonkeys ( mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ) 
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      Steam takes less as a game sells more copies. Iirc their minimum is a 20% cut

    • ILikeBoobies ( ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Epic is 0% up to $1 million and 12% after.

      Microsoft store is 5% if it’s through your website and 15% if it’s through the app.

      GoG is 30%

      Google Play store is 30% after 1 million

      Why lie?

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        30% used to be the standard, all consoles took 30%, Apple and Google took 30%, and all the PC game storefronts did. Sweeney doesn’t give a shit about saving anyone money but himself. He’s been on a decade long crusade to avoid paying these fees and will say whatever he can to make them go away or get lower.

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