- cross-posted to:
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
- cross-posted to:
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
Add the websites to existing malware blocklists, ideally ones that are loaded by default by uBlock Origin, and browsers with integrated blocklists.
This would protect visitors, and make the problem harder to ignore for webmasters since lots of visitor would get a big read scary screen. This is a radical option, but fixing this mess would take such a radical action.
If the list is widely disseminated and absorbed into blocklists, trying to get your domain of those lists afterwards is close to impossible. For a small business, that could be devastating.
It is also devastating for visitors when their savings gets stolen by malware distributed by infected websites.
Notify webmasters and give 1 week to fix the issue. If webmasters fails to fix the issue or are unreachable, adding them to blocklist seems appropriate.
And this, right here, is why I don’t permit the execution of javascript by default.
Even here:
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1895
Lemmy instances with custom emojis allow malicious Javascript
https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2026-54743
An approved member or a remote federated instance can store such content, and a viewer who renders it may execute JavaScript in the lemmy-ui origin, exposing the viewer’s session and authenticated actions.
NoScript has returned to my Firefox this year
Too much of the Web just doesn’t work with browsers without Javascript on for me to do that these days.
There was a time when I did browse like that.
Wise. Personally, I prefer umatrix since that allows me more fine grained control and has the ability to selectively block other resources or types of requests too, but anything is better than letting every website one visits run reams of arbitrary code.
i once asked a colleague ‘how do i tell the boss he just spent 500,000$ on the wrong thing?’
the answer was hilarious to me; ‘in an email’
I know the implication is supposed to be “Not to his face”, but if the boss a huge mistake it’s good to have some record (like an email) that you told him.
Obviously by posting information on how to fix it directly on the website 🤣
Note: Your security sucks...Why not just send an email to every website?
I could probably try to automate that, but to what email address? I’d have to hit a selection of common ones, info@, support@, abuse@, maybe others?
I’d use “webmaster@”, which is a pretty long-running convention, though I don’t know how many people have it set up. I don’t know if there’s an RFC backing that.
If you’re going to provide a standard contact admin email for a website, that’s where I’d expect it to be, at any rate.
EDIT:
Yeah, webmaster@; RFC 2142.
https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2142/
RFC 2142: Mailbox Names for Common Services, Roles and Functions
Various Internet documents have specified mailbox names to be used when reaching the operators of the new service; for example, [RFC822 6.3, C.6] requires the presence of a <POSTMASTER@domain> mailbox name on all hosts that have an SMTP server. Other protocols have defacto standards for well known mailbox names, such as <USENET@domain> for NNTP (see [RFC977]), and <WEBMASTER@domain> for HTTP (see [HTTP]). Defacto standards also exist for well known mailbox names which have nothing to do with a particular protocol, e.g., <ABUSE@domain> and <TROUBLE@domain>. The purpose of this memo is to aggregate and specify the basic set of mailbox names which organizations need to support.5. SUPPORT MAILBOX NAMES FOR SPECIFIC INTERNET SERVICES For major Internet protocol services, there is a mailbox defined for receiving queries and reports. (Synonyms are included, here, due to their extensive installed base.) MAILBOX SERVICE SPECIFICATIONS ----------- ---------------- --------------------------- POSTMASTER SMTP [RFC821], [RFC822] HOSTMASTER DNS [RFC1033-RFC1035] USENET NNTP [RFC977] NEWS NNTP Synonym for USENET WEBMASTER HTTP [RFC 2068] WWW HTTP Synonym for WEBMASTER UUCP UUCP [RFC976] FTP FTP [RFC959]I’d use “webmaster@”, which is a pretty long-running convention
Another option is looking for the
security.txt(toplevelor under.well-known/) of a site (that’s RFC 9116, which should have aContactfield with amailto:<contact address>field (althoughtel:<number>andhttps://<contact information page>are allowed, too, although far less common).Yeah, he mentioned
security.txtin the article, but complained that few implemented it.I guess that even if someone who apparently does computer security isn’t familiar with it, that Average Joe probably has no idea. Maybe there’s an argument that there should be some sort of Web browser support for “report problem with this page/site” that sends an email to an appropriate address with an URL for the page and comment so that people are more aware of it.
but complained that few implemented it
Now that you mention it… I decided to check our lemmy instances and both lemmy.today and feddit.org have a robots.txt (of course^^) but no security.txt *sigh*
Yours didn’t even bother to fill out the
/legalpage (which should also have contact information) although it’s a fixed part of the lemmy software with a link at the bottom of the site.
Can we see the list so I can know if my site is vulnerable and fix it?
Why hasn’t the list of sites been published? There are a few reasons:
- I didn’t want this to be a ‘name and shame’ as the sites on that list are, after all, victims of attacks. Someone broke into their site, and the owners probably have no idea.
- If the list is widely disseminated and absorbed into blocklists, trying to get your domain of those lists afterwards is close to impossible. For a small business, that could be devastating.
- Many of these websites were likely infected because of an existing vulnerability that was exploited in something like WordPress, Magento or similar. Handing out a list of viable targets does not seem like a good idea.
Cynically speaking, their story disappears if too many people fix their websites.








