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cm0002 ( cm0002@literature.cafe )  to Ukraine@sopuli.xyz · 21 hours ago

US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says

www.bbc.com

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US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says

www.bbc.com

cm0002 ( cm0002@literature.cafe )  to Ukraine@sopuli.xyz · 21 hours ago
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The US has not confirmed the Ukrainian president's comments - a US official told the BBC "many ideas continue to be discussed".
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  • runiq ( runiq@feddit.org ) 
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    “Just give us the fortress belt, which is your one major defensive fortification, and in exchange you get <mumble mumble>. Ain’t that a steal?”

  • EnthusiasticVolatile ( EnthusiasticVolatile@reddthat.com ) 
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    “Pinky promise just surrender those Donbas fortifications making your country ridiculously easy to roll over, and then we would definitely go die to defend the rest of your country after refusing to do it for 5 years. Trust me”

    Just fuck off with this kind of ‘deals’, please.

    • doo ( doo@sh.itjust.works ) 
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      After a pinky promise to defend Ukraine in exchange for removal of nuclear weapons back in 1994.

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    lol, as an American, why the fuck would you take the US’s advice here while Trump is actively trying to sabotage NATO itself?

    The Trump admin is literally the dumbest administration in American history.

    • lurch (he/him) ( lurch@sh.itjust.works ) 
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      I think he will at least listen to all their ideas, no matter how bad, because they’re still helping with other things. The US leadership is kinda toxic, but he will try to keep the help flowing for as long as reasonably possible.

    • bunnybunny ( bunnybunny@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Can you imagine how stupid someone must be to vote for that administration?

  • harrys_balzac ( harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I hope he told those Russian assets to fuck off.

  • LillyPip ( LillyPip@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Don’t listen to the US. They’re psychopathic and wrong.

  • Overzeetop ( Overzeetop@beehaw.org ) 
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    I say give them nukes. Russia agreed on the borders in return for them giving them up. Give them back, then see how negotiations progress.

  • acargitz ( theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Proving the Americans are well and truly clueless about what Putin actually wants.

    • Wildmimic ( Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ) 
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      They aren’t clueless, the Trump clan is in on it and filling their pockets. Putin has acknowledged that he might sell LukOil assets outside of Russia to people associated with Trump at a deep discount. We all know what is expected from him for that.

      Edit: wanted to add: Ukraine will never agree to this. They have held out 4 1/2 years, and they will continue to do so, especially if they know that Trump will be pretty occupied at home in 2 months.

  • Valmond ( Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Zelenskyy: I offer NATO to join Ukraine 😎

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    The first day Ukraine enters NATO russia will blow something up in Ukraine just to test it.

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    I can see how that would be a sensible argument for this because you can’t really join NATO (et al) while being in a war…

    But that requires reading in a good faith interpretation, which I don’t believe the administration has earned… quite the opposite in fact.

  • Quacksalber ( Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works ) 
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    I want that offer in writing. As well as the agreement of all other NATO states to support Ukraine joining.

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      Writing or not, I don’t think it’s easily doable in an accelerated enough timescale, even if everyone had the political will. So it’s a no.

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