A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.
Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.
Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.
- Concetta ( @vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 248•1 year ago
This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I’m sure everything will go fantastic.
Reddit will sure be a lovely site in a few months…
- infinitevalence ( @infinitevalence@discuss.online ) 50•1 year ago
May their shareholders weep.
- hemmes ( @hemmes@lemmy.one ) 23•1 year ago
If you take away what the people want
You’re gonna have a bad time. ⛷️
- PB-and-Jon ( @PB-and-Jon@kbin.social ) 11•1 year ago
I’m sad to see what has happened to the community I’ve been a part of for the better part of my life.
- CrimsonOnoscopy ( @CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org ) 69•1 year ago
[removed by reddit]
- 𝔼𝕔𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕔 ℍ𝕦𝕞𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕥𝕪 ( @EcstaticHumility@lemmy.one ) 19•1 year ago
I had a good hearty laugh thanks to your comment.
- mithis ( @mithis@lemmy.ca ) English11•1 year ago
I heard Disney really likes it when their content is shared through Reddit without them getting a cut of the profits. ;)
- simin ( @simin@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year ago
lol yeah
- Iconoclast ( @Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English104•1 year ago
Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.
- Contend6248 ( @Contend6248@feddit.de ) English49•1 year ago
I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?
Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.
- Iconoclast ( @Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English42•1 year ago
I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.
Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.
- valveman ( @valveman@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English2•1 year ago
Well, they could just say: “We made a script to track every mod who closed their sub, revogate its mod permissions and notify all other mods in the sub with an automatic message”, which basically frees them from any charges regarding community content.
They could, however, be sued for not actively removing illegal content, such as pirated things and MAP related things (e.g. r/jailbait)
- WisteriaCat ( @WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English6•1 year ago
Honestly it would probably be easy to force the sub to go dark again via ban by posting direct piracy links.
- arkcom ( @arkcom@kbin.social ) 71•1 year ago
Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn’t go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they’re even dumber than I thought.
automated message, sure. But they demoded just me, which is obviously very exact.
- CorrodedCranium ( @CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 19•1 year ago
Yeah. Considering the other mod messaged you it definitely seems targeted
- cavemeat ( @cavemeat@beehaw.org ) 18•1 year ago
Well, what lovely timing to abandon ship
- arkcom ( @arkcom@kbin.social ) 16•1 year ago
maybe things will (should?) get exciting over on /r/piracy
- VeryAmaze ( @VeryAmaze@vlemmy.net ) 15•1 year ago
An interesting point about this, is that previously when people would try to gain control over subs with inactive mods the admins would drag their feet as much as possible. (I’m part of a sub where it took almost a year via several requests for the group of new mods to gain ownership of the sub).
But now some fee-fees got hurt and admins go nuclear and removes mods at lightspeed… btw can the other mods bring you back?
- Briongloid ( @briongloid@aussie.zone ) 5•1 year ago
That’s what’s most surprising to me
- riskable ( @riskable@kbin.social ) 70•1 year ago
Not sure about the optics of Reddit force-reenabling a subreddit devoted to piracy LOL
- VeeSilverball ( @VeeSilverball@kbin.social ) 33•1 year ago
Coming soon: rebranding /r/piracy to “pirate cosplay”
- Iconoclast ( @Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 11•1 year ago
r/piracy after the IPO: piracy is unethical as it is stealing from the poor (companies). This is a community to discuss how to stop piracy and become responsible and dutiful consumers.
- citable6704 ( @citable6704@midwest.social ) English61•1 year ago
1: Funny we were all in here like two days ago saying “they’ll probably be happy to have the piracy sub gone”
2: Any member of the existing mod team that helps them is a fucking scab
3: Everyone else has made a good point about some potential liability issues of reddit the corporation wresting control of the piracy subreddit into their own hands
4: There are so many layers of irony with a corporation saying people need to have access to the community that tells them how to commit copyright infringement and then forcing that information into the open despite what its caretakers wish.
- nusirojonel ( @nusirojonel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English52•1 year ago
That was enough to get me to officially sign up here.
- lmaydev ( @lmaydev@feddit.nl ) English4•1 year ago
Yeah I just joined. Reddit is a sinking ship. Doubt it’ll die but it’s about to change a lot.
- Salamander ( @Sal@mander.xyz ) English50•1 year ago
Well, good thing that you prepared well in advance and have already built a nice alternative.
Reddit is done
- harc ( @harcesz@szmer.info ) English50•1 year ago
- onepinksheep ( @onepinksheep@kbin.social ) 47•1 year ago
So basically, according to Reddit, they own everything on Reddit. That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility. Bold strategy, cotton. They’re basically waiving their net neutrality.
- Lorez ( @Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 22•1 year ago
That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility.
Of course not, from reddit’s ToS: "By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.
You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:
When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content." –https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-12-2021
- onepinksheep ( @onepinksheep@kbin.social ) 18•1 year ago
That’s their TOS. Their actions recently — namely undeleting user posts and comments — run directly counter to their TOS. They’re essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.
- Lorez ( @Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 11•1 year ago
They’re essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.
Reddit reserves all the rights to everything you post ("When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, etc., etc.), but you alone are responsible for it (“Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.”).
- Nuclear Weapon ( @NuclearWeapon@ioc.exchange ) 18•1 year ago
@Lorez “Yes your honor, user ******* gave me all this content and I’m making money out of it, but I have nothing to do with it. I swear”
- Lorez ( @Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 5•1 year ago
And it works, see /u/delcake’s comment.
- NM156 ( @NM156@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 5•1 year ago
Welcome to the CCP…
- CorrodedCranium ( @CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
Except for Switch ROMs that’s where they draw the line
- dnzm ( @dnzm@feddit.nl ) 4•1 year ago
Nobody fucks with Nintendo, or The Mouse.
- Lorez ( @Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•1 year ago
double post, sorry, delete doesn’t seem to work
- rvreq ( @rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English41•1 year ago
This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won’t die month later.
That’s literally impossible! An instance may go down, but it will stay cached.
- rvreq ( @rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English6•1 year ago
Okie, I’m absolute noob here. Right now I struggle to find night mode. :D
Settings > Theme
- rvreq ( @rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•1 year ago
❤️
- Dataprolet ( @dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English41•1 year ago
I reinvited you in case you care.
cheers. Rejoined
- PirateForDaLolz ( @PirateForDaLolz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English41•1 year ago
lol imagine being so desperate for the protest to come to an end that you are even targeting a community that engages in legally questionable activity.
I’m sure the process of determining what mods to DM was automated, but even so, it’s still pretty funny to me.
- Takatakatakatakatak ( @bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English40•1 year ago
They went easy on you. Some overzealous mod permabanned my entire account for talking about Lemmy. Allegedly against their ‘content guidelines’
- Briongloid ( @briongloid@aussie.zone ) English15•1 year ago
Your entire account would have to be admin level wouldn’t it?
- Takatakatakatakatak ( @bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English13•1 year ago
Not sure mate. I’ve had a target on my back for the last couple of years I believe. I had a bunch of accounts at one stage for different purposes. I used to post a lot of long-form content: reviews, how-to tech guides etc etc and as a self preservation technique I kept each niche to a seperate account.
Over the last 2 years I had one 11 year old account, one 8 year old account and another few fresher ones perma-banned with no reason given, or just the flimsiest excuse under the sun. I must have really pissed off one of the mods/ admins - they can track you by IP and browser info etc.
- Briongloid ( @briongloid@aussie.zone ) English11•1 year ago
Given the size of Reddit, admins don’t check when mods abuse users, I had my 10 yr account with 150K nearly permabanned because of a mod banning me from my own countries sub for posting a non offensive meme on the wrong day.
I wasn’t logged in on a computer, was using Reddit which showed me my local subs by default and the saved login credentials was a different alt.
I was typing a comment reply, realised I wasn’t logged and signed in with the other alt, didn’t realise it wasn’t another local sub and I got suspended Reddit wide for “ban evasion” and nearly lost a decade old major account because a mod in my countries sub abused their position.
I never retaliated, wasn’t rude, didn’t genuinely try to evade the ban and nearly lost a decade of activity.
There are a lot of benefits to the fediverse and I plan on hosting my own personal instance soon.
- Mastersord ( @Mastersord@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) English39•1 year ago
So Reddit is forcing open a piracy sub. I wonder how potential investors would feel about that?
- Litanys ( @chris@lem.cochrun.xyz ) English20•1 year ago
This needs so much more noise! If only some of us were part of major news channels, more shareholders need to know now that reddit is in IPO process. It’ll hurt bad.
- promitheas ( @promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi ) English37•1 year ago
This should somehow be made known outside the fediverse, to bring more people away from reddit and to here
please do share. I can only spread the word so much.
- promitheas ( @promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi ) English9•1 year ago
I don’t really have a following or anything but I’ll try he he he