A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

  • db0 ( db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) OPEnglish
    2·
    3 years ago

    relays can choose to block content.

    This is so naive I don’t even know where to start. But it’s ok, I don’t need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.

    • milahu ( milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned from communityEnglish
      1·
      3 years ago

      please explain. me (and the nostr project) would love to hear your criticism.

      also, relays are free to implement further anti-spam measures: captcha, email, phone, payment, …

      • db0 ( db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) OPEnglish
        1·
        3 years ago

        No. I literally don’t have time to deconstruct this for you now. I suggest you open a dedicated thread for this discussion on one of the communities speaking about the fediverse and ask for people’s opinions. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of people to debate this with.

          • SnowOneKnows ( snowone@fixate.social ) 
            1·
            3 years ago

            @milahu @db0 my issue with nostr is it seems to be another private “network” while activity pub has issues it at least lets me talk on mastodon/lemmy/kbin and see posts from all those services.

            and I can freely move my account from one instance to another one if needed than migrate back home even.

            and for privacy in small groups you can even implement your own peer to peer encryption so DMs remain private between trusted sources.

              • SnowOneKnows ( snowone@fixate.social ) 
                1·
                3 years ago

                @milahu I have looked at the bridges and the use still tends to create errors for the encryption I have always supported that users should be taking the initiative and using GnuPG encryption for sensitive messages on all platforms so your not relying on any one else’s use of data.

                So I know it started with crypto being the push for this one can you tell me if it is still heavy into cryptobro hype?

                • milahu ( milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned from community
                  2·
                  3 years ago

                  obviously bridges are lossy: nostr events are arbitrary JSON objects, activitypub messages are markdown text. both transmit events as JSON objects, but with different structure. for lossless transmission, you would have to use one protocol as framing protocol, ie, send the message as attachment.

                  can you tell me if it is still heavy into cryptobro hype?

                  what?

                  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cryptobro

                  (slang, sometimes derogatory) An enthusiastic cryptocurrency supporter, usually male, especially a dogmatic, condescending one.

                  not really, nostr itself is not a blockchain, because a blockchain is not space-efficient. some instances support lightning (bitcoin) payments, so you “upvote with money”. (personally, i would prefer monero or zerocoin, but that can be implemented later.)

                  in nostr, all messages/events are signed by default. in activitypub, signatures are optional (https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/nomadic-identity-for-the-fediverse/2101), which means that most users will not use them. signatures are required for replication across multiple relays/instances. without signatures, i have to trust the relay admins.

                  hype: a nostr client (damus) is banned in china. nostr is supported by Jack Dorsey (ex twitter CEO) and Edward Snowden.

              • Océane ⏚ ( oceane@eldritch.cafe ) 
                1·
                3 years ago

                My main concern with nostr is that it’s developed by a man who’s abused me for 8 years without even knowing I existed, so discussing about specs or clients is missing the bigger picture (basically tech bikeshedding).

                  • Océane ⏚ ( oceane@eldritch.cafe ) 
                    1·
                    3 years ago

                    @milahu You clearly have no idea of what you’re talking about, so you’re resorting to personal insults. Your behavior is
                    completely coherent and thus, not surprising or disappointing in any way. You’re just an asshole.

                    I’ve repeated year after year, and been exposed to a domestic predator because of Twitter. I’m still depressed and I
                    still can’t manage my money and my time properly because of Twitter. I’ve stayed in the closet for another decade
                    because of Twitter. You don’t even know the beginning of what you’re talking about. You don’t even know what’s a
                    dispositive of power, or even the face of the most famous French philosopher having dedicated his life to write
                    about power.

                    You’re just an ignorant.

                    Yes, it’s tech bikeshedding _because_ you’re restricting the conversation to tech and protocols. As far as I know,
                    there’s a 50/50 chance you don’t know what an affordance is, and you’re going to lecture us about how easy it is to
                    run a relay. This isn’t the topic at hand. The topic at hand is that you wouldn’t trust Dorsey if you gave a shit,
                    and I assume we do, so shut up.

                  • Océane ⏚ ( oceane@eldritch.cafe ) 
                    1·
                    3 years ago

                    You clearly have no idea of what you’re talking about, so you’re resorting to personal insults. Your behavior is completely coherent and thus, not surprising or disappointing in any way. You’re just an asshole.

                    I’ve repeated year after year, and been exposed to a domestic predator because of Twitter. I’m still depressed and I still can’t manage my money and my time properly because of Twitter. I’ve stayed in the closet for another decade because of Twitter. You don’t even know the beginning of what you’re talking about. You don’t even know what’s a dispositive of power, or even the face of the most famous French philosopher having dedicated his life to write about power.

                    You’re just an ignorant.

                    Yes, it’s tech bikeshedding _because_ you’re restricting the conversation to tech and protocols. As far as I know, there’s a 50/50 chance you don’t know what an affordance is, and you’re going to lecture us about how easy it is to run a relay. This isn’t the topic at hand. The topic at hand is that you wouldn’t trust Dorsey if you gave a shit, and I assume we do, so shut up.