I mean, people use dash-cams protect themselves in case of a car crash, so do you think people in the future would also use body-cams protect themselves in case of being involved in a fight?

  •  Gatsby   ( @Gatsby@lemm.ee ) 
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    211 year ago

    Nah once deepfakes become simple enough for the majority to make, citizen-created video evidence will be worthless.

    Only ‘tamper-proof’ sources will be trusted even when they will be tampered with.

    •  radix   ( @radix@lemm.ee ) 
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      41 year ago

      I don’t remember if this came from cybersecurity logging practices or from anti-deepfake advice I saw online, but maybe physical cameras can constantly upload video evidence to a reliable third-party server which will save the checksums of, suppose, every minute’s worth of data. Then there would be no way for the source of the video to retroactively replace the content on that server with deepfake videography without this leaving evidence in the checksums.

      I’m not sure if/how the third-party server would be able to tell that it’s listening to a real bodycam/dashcam rather than simply receiving data from a deepfake-generating AI model. I guess to use a video for evidence, you’d have to have corroborating evidence from nearby people who recorded the same event from a different angle (AI-generated videos would have trouble with creating different angles of the same event, right?).

      And even if you can’t use a video as evidence, witness testimony has always been used in court. Someone else on Lemmy wrote that people have been making arguments in court since before there was photo/video evidence; our justice system (whoever “our” refers to) will simply revert to pre-camera ways when a photo/video cannot be trusted.

  •  Tordoc   ( @Tordoc@beehaw.org ) 
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    101 year ago

    I feel the more likely scenario is for public surveillance to reach a point where everyone outside their home (or near a window) is being recorded from multiple sources.

    • It’s already the case in neighborhoods and apartment/townhome complexes, Amazon’s Ring. Can’t walk down the street without being recorded on both sides by at least 50% of front doors / driveways. Amazon who was recently caught allowing employees to view hundreds of women’s home camera feeds (even indoor cameras, since the average person doesn’t fully consider how much a single company can spy on you when there’s a camera/microphone reporting directly to their servers).

      •  Tordoc   ( @Tordoc@beehaw.org ) 
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        31 year ago

        Very true, I forgot about the doorbell cameras! Neighbors on FB will often post their camera footage when a “suspicious” (read: black or young) person drives by

          • What if, over time, we focused on plug-and-play, free (freedom), open-source solutions? Take framework laptops as an example. There was a problem with laptops being difficult to self-service, so they developed a solution. Sure, not THE solution, but progress in the right direction means a lot. As long as we can recognize the faults in centralized services. (Spread relatable awareness), and care enough to support action which further develops decentralization.

  • After the backlash that was created by Google Glass and the clusterfucks that other hip consumer-oriented wearable cameras (like Snap’s Spectacles, Ray Ban’s and Bose’s glasses) have been, I don’t expect this to happen.

    It’s much more likely that CCTV will be so pervavise that we’re unlikely to have any expectation of privacy whatsoever, once in public and that governments and the private sector will have access to most of it.

  • Nothing would really surprise me. I am fascinated by that Black Mirror episode where they have cameras in their eyes and can play back anything they’ve ever seen, or download/stream for others to see. Even this seems totally plausible eventually.

  •  Kempeth   ( @Kempeth@feddit.de ) 
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    611 months ago

    Nah. When you look at the groups that employ body/dash cams (Police, Russian drivers, …) what they have in common is that they are involved in activities that have a high likelyhood to get you involved in altercations and it can be really important to have the incident on camera from the first second on. This simply doesn’t hold true for most people - not to a degree that warrants attaching a permanent surveillance device to your body when you already have an easily accessible on demand camera with you.

  • I think so, but for different reasons. Dash and became popular specifically for protection. I think that AR will become so ubiquitous that we will, by default, all be wearing body cams. Once AR becomes popular enough, someone will offer an “app” that will automatically record and save the last 10 minutes or something along those lines.

  • I think it’s possible for a self-hosted/maintained 360 degree camera to become frequently used. People in busy cities could definitely benefit from having the ability to record whoever walks up to possibly bother them. As long as this made-up product doesn’t connect to the internet, I imagine it would be practical and safe.