While I understand the lack of proper open source alternatives for some software like AutoCAD and After Effects, it always felt weird that the best IDEs/Text Editors are made by big corporations, because you know, these are the tools programmers use.
I tried vim/neovim, which I enjoy using, but I’ve come to prefer visual editors instead of text based. Kate looks promising, and I’m willing to contribute to it in my free time, but it just has that “amateurish” feel to it that I can’t explain.
Anyone aware of other alternatives?
Pol ( @pol@infosec.pub ) English79•11 months agoVscodium
Simon Weiss ( @simonweiss@lemmy.ml ) English32•11 months ago Pol ( @pol@infosec.pub ) English5•11 months agoYou don’t need that when you use NixOS 😋
sprl ( @sprl@lemm.ee ) English3•11 months agoAny idea how well vscodium runs on macos? Is the performance worde than normal vscode?
lenathaw ( @lenathaw@lemmy.ml ) English3•11 months agoI use Codium on both PopOS and MacOSi, it’s a bit slow to start, but performance is good, but I don’t know how it compares to stock VSCode since I never tested it. But overall I’m very happy with it.
madeindjs ( @madeindjs@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoI tried both and it’s the same
Daeraxa ( @Daeraxa@lemmy.ml ) English20•11 months agoI’ve been keeping a list of alternatives for a while now that I really like:
- Pulsar - An actively developed fork of Atom once Microsoft killed it off. Disclosure: I’m on the Pulsar team so I’m more than a little biased here but if you want to get involved we are always after people who want to contribute and we have a very friendly and active Discord server. First thing we did was re-implement the package backend and migrate it so we were able to keep the thousands and thousands of community packages for download.
- Lite-XL - A really lightweight and fast editor written in C and Lua that is very actively developed. I use this on some less powerful systems.
- Lapce - Another lightweight and very fast editor written in Rust and is in the middle of moving to their own UI framework. Not that extensible at the moment but supports LSP plugins.
Then for terminal based editors I really like Helix which is vim-like but uses a selection -> action model (like Kakoune). I really like it because it requires almost no configuration.
CrypticCoffee ( @CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml ) English3•11 months agoThanks for your work on Pulsar. Atom was my go to simple editor before MS killed it off. I’m still fuming now. I really need to try Pulsar :). Been using Kate for now.
Debian Guy ( @o1o12o21@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoPlaying around with lite-xl, thanks for the recommendation. Lacks many features for now, but seems to have a huge potential.
crystal ( @crystal@feddit.de ) English2•11 months agoI see a lot of potential in Lapce, but sadly the extensions (which are necessary, since it has basically no ootb language support) are very poorly maintained and outdated. Last I used it the Javascript/Typescript support was simply not sufficient for active use. I am very hopeful for Lapce’s future though!
Edit: Just checked and the TS/JS extension is still on version
2022.11.0
. The code formatting still doesn’t work (for me) :(
Γ7Σ ( @g7s@lemmy.ml ) English15•11 months agoLunarvim
Simon Weiss ( @simonweiss@lemmy.ml ) English3•11 months agoActually a pretty good on-the-go alternative to GUI IDEs. Always using it to quickly edit configs and scripts.
Γ7Σ ( @g7s@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoI am using it, as an “IDE” for everything.
copylefty ( @copylefty@lemmy.fosshost.com ) English2•11 months agoThis looks great. I’ve been using Spacevim for years but will check this out
Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoHow does it compare to similar stuff like AstroNvim, SpaceVim, NVChad, etc? I’m trying to choose one but having difficulties 😥
nickwitha_k (he/him) ( @nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ) English3•11 months agoI find it significantly better than SpaceVim as they’re not relying on EOL’d packages and customization is a bit easier. Defaults are pretty sane and most needed plugins are quick to setup.
Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English3•11 months agoThank you, gonna give it a try! Since I’m new to nvim it would feel good to still have that “semi IDE” feeling, but the ammount of options felt overwhelming 😅
nickwitha_k (he/him) ( @nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ) English3•11 months agoNo problem! That’s definitely an easy problem to have with (neo)vim.
Γ7Σ ( @g7s@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoI think you are doing nothing wrong with choosing Lunarvim. Anyway, If you ever are unhappy with it, you can pretty much just create your own neovim config.
Γ7Σ ( @g7s@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoIt’s got a pretty good community, you always find some help online. It comes per default only with “needed” plugins, which makes it a pretty nice IDE already. If you ever need more plugins, it’s also not complicated to install them,
Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoGood community is always a plus for any project. Thanks for the recommendation!
pkulak ( @pkulak@beehaw.org ) English1•11 months agoAstrovim too.
nope ( @nope@yiffit.net ) English13•11 months agoYou could try VSCodium. VS code but less spyware-y
Lauchmelder ( @Lauchmelder@feddit.de ) English9•11 months agoI wouldn’t exchange my neovim config for anything. After getting used to how vim works and installing all the plugins I need, I feel like this is my favourite editor. It looks nice and I enjoy using keyboard shortcuts over using a mouse.
That said, the day I lose my neovim config is the day I die. If it disappears I’m doomed
monobot ( @monobot@lemmy.ml ) English9•11 months agoPeople are writing different opinions, but you are right, best IDEs are comercial software.
I think it is just because it takes a lot of time and effort on boring stuff to make this tools smooth. Generally in open source we work on fun parts and leave those boring last 20% unfinished, which is ok with me.l
Ascend910 ( @Ascend910@lemmy.ml ) English9•11 months agoMaybe codium will be what your looking for
Yote.zip ( @yote_zip@pawb.social ) English8•11 months agoLapce is an alternative that you can try, though it’s self-described as “pre-alpha”.
Simon Weiss ( @simonweiss@lemmy.ml ) English4•11 months agoWhy on Earth did I read this comment? 🥲 This app is so painfully fast and crisp! And it has Vim and SSH out of the box. And its own plugin marketplace… Now I have no choice but to suffer every time I open VSCode(ium) in hope that development continues and soon I will have the thing to ditch it for and finally get rid of my allergies to Electron.
TrivialBetaState ( @TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz ) English8•11 months agoMy first comment would be that free software made by a corporation is still free software. Like Eclipse, which was originally made by IBM and is a huge ecosystem, especially for “java and friends.” So, there is nothing wrong with VS Code(ium). It is a “proper” open source editor and a very good one (I don’t use it though - I prefer EMACS).
As for community-base alternatives (which is probably what you mean), you could consider kdevelop or pulsar. There are other alternatives which are equally good and surely one of them will fit your purpose. You mentioned Kate and I can’t find anything wrong with it, especially once you start installing the plugins that are relevant to what you do. Same with Gedit.
nickwitha_k (he/him) ( @nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ) English7•11 months agoNeovim + LunarVim is most of what I need for software engineering out of the box. It even has debugger support. Plus it’s way faster than VSCode and terminal friendly.
Solaris1789 ( @Solaris1789@jlai.lu ) English7•11 months agoVscodium or Geany
ed_cock ( @ed_cock@kbin.social ) 6•11 months agoVisual Studio Code is kinda heavy, so why not Netbeans or Eclipse?
falsem ( @falsem@kbin.social ) 4•11 months agoA real wise guy, eh?
perivesta ( @perivesta@feddit.de ) English6•11 months agoIf you like Kate you can try Kdevelop. It’s the same editor base but a bit more IDE like
erAck ( @erAck@discuss.tchncs.de ) English5•11 months agoI heard good things about Geany.
Rodeo ( @Rodeo@lemmy.ca ) English4•11 months agoI love geany but it’s basically done. The little development that happens is maintenance only. It’s great at what it does now, but don’t expect any new feature (rip LSP)
Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English4•11 months agoI alternate between VCCodium and Kate, both are fine to me, but Kate feels snappier since I’m on KDE. It’s also less of a resource drain.
I can’t manage to make Kate look half descent on Mint (Cinnamon). It does look great on Plasma
Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English1•11 months agoOuch, I can imagine how it feels. I’ve always been a KDE user, but I’ve tried other DEs before Since I used lots of KDE stuff (Krita, Kate, KdenLive) I stuck with it.
Mot ( @Mot@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months agoI frequently use Kate as a backup as well. Do you configure it in anyway?
Marxine ( @Marxine@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months agoI like to remove the top menu and have the icons to the sidebar. Other than that, I activate a few plugins and keep it pretty vanilla. Most of the default configs are fine to me, and the command bar helps a lot.