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BrikoX ( BrikoX@lemmy.zip )  to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

Putin tells Poland any aggression against Belarus is attack on Russia

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Putin tells Poland any aggression against Belarus is attack on Russia

www.reuters.com

BrikoX ( BrikoX@lemmy.zip )  to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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President Vladimir Putin on Friday accused NATO member Poland of having territorial ambitions in the former Soviet Union, and said any aggression against Russia's neighbour and close ally Belarus would be considered an attack on Russia.
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  • Luci ( Luci@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Fuck Putin

    • ImmaculateTaint ( ImmaculateTaint@kbin.social ) 
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      🥵

      • Luci ( Luci@lemmy.ca ) 
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        No, not like that!!

        • GiorgioPerlasca ( GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Alina Kabaeva: «What do you mean not like that?»

      • debbie downer ( debbiedowner@beehaw.org ) 
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        Username does not check out

    • mihor ( mihor@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Ok, Karen.

      • automater ( automater@lemmy.one ) 
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        Well the troll farms have found lemmy I guess

      • Luci ( Luci@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Lol what?

        • MaggiWuerze ( MaggiWuerze@feddit.de ) 
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          Don’t feed him

  • magnetosphere ( magnetosphere@kbin.social ) 
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    No, Putin. An attack on Belarus is only an attack on Belarus. Someone would have to attack Russia for it to be an attack on Russia. Look at a fucking map.

    (Yes, I’m being obtuse, but giving this asshole a hard time makes me smile. Cut me some slack.)

  • Duamerthrax ( Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml ) 
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    So is Belarus going to attack Poland now or is Putin planning a false flag attach again?

    • takeda ( takeda@kbin.social ) 
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      I think it’s probably Wagner was moved there for that reason and putin wants to test if alliance will be afraid to reason.

      If NATO responds then he sacrifices just Belarus, but if it won’t then other eastern countries are at risk.

  • xuxebiko ( xuxebiko@kbin.social ) 
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    Putin’s standup act is very funny. He should quit his day job & take it up fulltime.

    • Luci ( Luci@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Idk, last guy who laughed at him had his country invaded.

      • xuxebiko ( xuxebiko@kbin.social ) 
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        Putin’s been invading Ukraine since 2014. His 3-day special operation is going on for 514 days, had him running from a mutiny (I need a ride,not ammo!), has killed 241,330 Russians, has the Kerch bridge opening and closing like a fucking accordion, and is a global criminal. And all against a country with no nukes, no navy, barely an airforce, a tenth of Russia’s defense budget, and 28 times smaller than Russia.
        He’s losing so badly, the whole world’s laughing at him.

        As I said earlier, Putin’s standup act is very funny.

        • mihor ( mihor@lemmy.ml ) 
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          The 3-day myth was entirely a gaffe by the stupid general Milley. I’m not even going to address the other sci-fi numbers you blurted out as they are santa claus type of fantasy.

          • xuxebiko ( xuxebiko@kbin.social ) 
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            get lost, tankie.

  • SomeDude ( ProcurementCat@feddit.de ) 
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    I have a suspicion of what is going on in Putin’s head:

    • 2021/early 2022, he thought his military was amazing and could take Ukraine in 3 days
    • that went horribly wrong, russian tanks and other weapons exploded all over
    • only two options: western weapons are incredibly better than russian weapons, or russian generals are incompetent
    • fire generals left and right over 2022, it doesn’t really get any better
    • winter break
    • 2023, the long dreaded Ukrainian counter offensive is coming
    • West has given Ukraine only a handful of weapons, not enough for a sweeping, brutal offensive
    • Ukrainian offensive stalls
    • Putin’s advisors show him the same destroyed Bradley and Leopard 2 tanks all over, from different angles
    • “Holy shitballs russian weapons aren’t inferior to western weapons, it really was just stupid generals, we really destroyed hundreds of NATO tanks”
    • fuck yeah, with that sorted out I can take on the baltics and Poland
    • _I_ ( _I_@kbin.social ) 
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      Can’t wait for Season 2. Season 2 has been confirmed, right?

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    This night for the first time Polish regular soldiers fired on our territory. Since 5:45 a.m. we have been returning the fire, and from now on bombs will be met by bombs.

    • Granite ( Granite@kbin.social ) 
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      Can you cite a source?

      Edit: thanks for the sources

      • geeking_introvert ( geeking_introvert@kbin.social ) 
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        It is from a famous speech of Hitler that marked the beginning of the second world war.

      • takeda ( takeda@kbin.social ) 
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        This was fragment of Hitler’s speech on September 1st, 1939.

        https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction

        • maynarkh ( maynarkh@feddit.nl ) 
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          That’s one very weird source you’re linking.

      • Finn ( baascus@lemm.ee ) 
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        Putin’s favorite dictator

      • grean ( grean@lemmy.ml ) 
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        deleted by creator

    • ghost_laptop ( gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Liberal citing Hitler. Checks out.

      • takeda ( takeda@kbin.social ) 
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        Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.

        • ghost_laptop ( gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 
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          As far as I remember history tells us that liberal governments turned fascists.

          • takeda ( takeda@kbin.social ) 
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            Nazi party was as socialist as North Korea is democratic

            https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

            • ghost_laptop ( gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 
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              I don’t know where you get the idea from that I’ve said the Nazis were socialists, and I don’t know where you get the idea that social democracies, a.k.a. liberal democracies, a.k.a. dictatorship of the bourgeoisie are socialists. Again, as far as I remember, history tells us that the bourgeois governments are the ones who turn fascist. History repeats itself: Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

  • Jaysyn ( Jaysyn@kbin.social ) 
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    Putin says a lot of stupid shit he’s incapable
    of doing, why would this be different?

  • TurnItOff_OnAgain ( TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemdro.id ) 
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    I’m not up to snuff on NATO regulations. As I understand it, if a NATO nation gets attacked, the rest of them are obliged to defend, correct? What happens if that nation is “the aggressor”. Like in this situation if Poland were to do a first strike against Belarus or Russia and they respond attacking Poland, is the rest of NATO obliged to help defend Poland?

    • photonic_sorcerer ( photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      No, NATO doesn’t interfere if a member starts a war. It’s a defensive treaty. That said, Poland alone wouldn’t be able to do much, and democracies rarely openly declare war.

      • DauntingFlamingo ( DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml ) 
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        I had a deployment with Polish soldiers. They are a modern and extremely capable defensive force. It would likely turn into the same thing we’re seeing in Ukraine (smaller force that is well trained and better supplied vs sending a lot of bodies and old tech). I don’t think we’ll ever see a Polish led force invading Belarus or Russia without a massive NATO backing and a lot of foreign units already on the way to support them. Defensively, they will fuck you up. Offensively, they don’t have the man power to go deep into enemy territory.

        The Polish have historical grudges with Russia and are chomping at the bit to hurt some Russians. It is probably NATO that is holding them back from sending units to Ukraine

      • Pyr ( Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ) 
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        However what if a NATO country starts a war with Belarus, and then Russia attacks the NATO country?

        The NATO country would never have initiated a war with Russia, they would have initiated it with Belarus.

        Does a NATO country automatically become vulnerable if they have any wars currently ongoing? Because that would mean Russia could have attacked America during the war in Afghanistan and NATO would not have been able to get involved.

        • takeda ( takeda@kbin.social ) 
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          The way it works is that the attacked country invokes article 5. If the country does it then other members are obligated to help. If they don’t, they are undermining NATO.

          Having said that, NATO doesn’t specify how countries supposed to respond. It could be something to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War

          I think putin sending Wagner to Belarus is indeed thinking to force Belarus to attack Poland or a Baltic states and see what happens. Of course that would be simple, it would be Belarus vs NATO, and would end up quickly.

          So he is tipping the scale and saying that attacking Belarus will be also attacking Russia, hoping that it will be ignored like two Russian missiles hitting Poland. If it won’t be ignored, then he is just sacrificing Belarus.

    • • milan • ( Milan@feddit.nl ) 
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      As long as an attack happens on NATO territory, it’s considered an act of war. Even if the NATO country is the aggressor. Ideally the aggressing country would be suspended before they could invoke article 5.

      • SeaJ ( SeaJ@lemm.ee ) 
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        Unless there is a cover up like happened with those Russian missiles that hit Poland.

  • PanPuszek ( PanPuszek@reddthat.com ) 
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    Is it only me or does Putin look really bad in this photo? I mean he seems unhealthy and in addition to that he looks like he aged 10 years in just 2. Amazing speedrun.

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