- flip ( @flip@lemmy.nbsp.one ) English154•11 months ago
Looks absolutely well-planned and not rushed at all, perfect alignment of the logo, proper copy. Definitely not just a hasty implementation of a fever dream.
- ono ( @ono@lemmy.ca ) English72•11 months ago
Uh, Elon, did you just copy the X Window System logo?
- bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) English35•11 months ago
He googled “X logo” and picked the first option he didn’t recognize
- haych ( @haych@lemmy.one ) English29•11 months ago
No. It’s from Special Alphabets 4. https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1683428660915625989?t=61yiSztLYwYk44zLQ1HVrw&s=19
- ono ( @ono@lemmy.ca ) English8•11 months ago
I’m amazed at how many people think Twitter has copied the X Windows logo
when you’re trying to make a point it’s always worth being right and not wrong
Tom Warren is amazed that many people notice a new logo having almost exactly the same shape as a well-known, decades-old one. Tom Warren would like everyone to know that he is much more clever than they are, for noticing that it also resembles an obscure font’s glyph for an obscure unicode character that has existed for roughly half as long. Good for you, Tom Warren. We all admire you and the glorious blue-framed check mark next to your name.
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) English6•11 months ago
obscure font’s glyph for an obscure unicode character that has existed for roughly half as long
Standard monotype font
𝕏 - “mathematical double-struck capital X”
Added to Unicode in 2001, used a very similar character for X11 in 1984, added to math in… who was the first mathematician in history to ever use it?
Blackboard Bold - popularized in the 1960s.
- ono ( @ono@lemmy.ca ) English4•11 months ago
Yes, yes… it’s fine to acknowledge the existence of math notation that most people will never use.
Tom Warren chose to fixate on a specific typeface (not math) and use that as an excuse to criticize people for their valid comparison to something that predates it. He followed up by declaring that he was “right” and others were “wrong”. Is he a four-year-old?
I can’t think of a more snide, self-aggrandizing way to participate in the conversation. It was unnecessary, rude, and not even technically correct*, which is why he has earned my mocking comment in response.
*(We can see in the replies that the glyph he shows to support his position is in fact not the same as the logo being discussed.)
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months ago
OK, so maybe Tom Warren is not the most likable guy, or not one to defuse a controversy that can lead more people to his website.
But I think it is technically correct:
- There is both 𝕏 and 𝕩, not sure which one looks closer to the “formerly-called-Twitter” one, but they do look really close
- They do follow a way of writing that predates the X11 logo, I wouldn’t be surprised if the X11 logo itself was inspired by that too
- The glyphs appear just like that as part of the default Unicode typeface I’m using on my phone right now
I think the part we should take from this, is “Elon just wrote an x in a ‘1337 way’, and called it a logo”.
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months ago
Shouldn’t that link… go to x.com now? 🤣
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months ago
- tias ( @tias@discuss.tchncs.de ) English16•11 months ago
No, they copied Elon. Law suit coming soon. /s
- Granite ( @Granite@kbin.social ) 10•11 months ago
You might not need the s…
- Iwasondigg ( @Iwasondigg@lemmy.one ) English25•11 months ago
It’s not even centered?
- Maolmi ( @Maolmi@feddit.de ) English33•11 months ago
It’s right of the center. So aligned with Elon’s politics…
- Prandom_returns ( @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ) English7•11 months ago
Ha! Good one
- fuzzywolf23 ( @fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org ) English13•11 months ago
Somehow, this is the bit that offends me most
- Zapp ( @Zapp@beehaw.org ) English9•11 months ago
I’m guessing that skill with Cascading Style Sheets is considered wasted time and effort at X, much like media relations, accessibility, and microservices.
- linuxduck ( @linuxduck@nerdly.dev ) English2•11 months ago
I enjoy reading about this change because everytime someone writes something like. Look what x did. My first thought isn’t of Twitter or any social media, it’s: “who’s x?” (As in replacement variable)
So stupid to rebrand like that. Oh well, never used Twitter anyways
- muhyb ( @muhyb@programming.dev ) English8•11 months ago
I thought this was a joke.
- Auzy ( @Auzy@beehaw.org ) English92•11 months ago
They did a great job replacing a highly marketable icon with character, with something that feels like cliche 80’s dial-up geocities days that doesn’t make sense at all, given the terminology of everything…
In other news, you need to log in to use twitter now? lol. Wow, genius
- ffolkes ( @ffolkes@fanexus.com ) English12•11 months ago
Kinda like the names of his kids.
- AwwTopsy ( @AwwTopsy@lemm.ee ) English74•11 months ago
👀
- chris. ( @nihilx7E3@beehaw.org ) 51•11 months ago
saw this earlier from an old twitter tab, thought my browser had been hijacked with some extension. what an amateurish logo, looks like what a tiny business puts up on their wordpress when they have no designers & are only making a logo because they have to, definitely not what i’d expect from one of the biggest social media sites in the world. elon has been fixated on the whole x thing for literal decades now & that’s the best logo he came up with?
- PeachMan ( @PeachMan@lemmy.one ) English29•11 months ago
Supposedly this is a temporary logo until they can create a more permanent one. It literally came from some random that tweeted at him (X’d at him? Lol). He asked for submissions and just chose one, maybe he accidentally laid off all the graphic designers.
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 46•11 months ago
Rebranding was so urgent that he didn’t wait for a finished logo? I have to admit, I’m baffled. With his other changes I can at least imagine a thought process behind it, this one seems to be something he just woke up and decided to do all of a sudden.
- TofuScramble ( @TofuScramble@beehaw.org ) 33•11 months ago
It becomes a lot easier to understand when you remember that he might just be kinda stupid :)
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
He’s not, though. He’s had plenty of successful companies that have done some pretty amazing things, and he’s become a multi-hundred-billionaire starting from a relatively extremely small amount of seed funding.
I suspect that his successes in other fields may have led him to think he would be just as good at running a social media company, which isn’t going so well for him.
- AnarchoYeasty ( @AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) 27•11 months ago
He bought a company that got bought by PayPal. He didn’t build anything he didn’t run anything. He bought an existing company that got bought out. At SpaceX and Tesla they have entire structures created to stop Elon from fucking up shit and to manage him. If you need your company organized to manage the owner and stop them from fucking shit up you don’t get to claim to be smart or to build amazing stuff. In every case it’s the engineers that build amazing things despite Elon’s involvement. Elon himself is an idiot.
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
If Elon’s an idiot who doesn’t do anything, then why are so many of his companies successful at the revolutionary things they try? How’s Blue Origin doing with its rockets, for example?
I think there’s a very clear theme of “I don’t like this person therefore I believe he has no positive qualities whatsoever” going on here.
- Pigeon ( @Lowbird@beehaw.org ) 17•11 months ago
Because he’s a rich fuck who inherited emerald mine money to get his start, and he got lucky with his first buys and got an in with other rich fucks, and he buys good companies and sometimes he doesn’t wreck them?
He didn’t build any of it.
- prd ( @prd@beehaw.org ) 14•11 months ago
While he obviously has some intelligence, he’s still very much an idiot. One just has to look at his immature and mostly incoherent public relations and business decisions to see that. Further, as smart as he thinks he is, he’s not designing rockets. He pays much smarter people than him to do that for him.
People will often say that very rich people MUST be extremely intelligent, after all - they have more money than you!
I would counter that sociopathy and the ability to work with a complete lack of morals is what allows people to truly become wealthy. There’s no such thing as an ethical billionaire.
- Proweruser ( @Proweruser@feddit.de ) 7•11 months ago
Uh the just world fallacy it’s strong in you.
- TofuScramble ( @TofuScramble@beehaw.org ) English26•11 months ago
- Offer to buy Twitter for $44 billion
- Try to back out when Twitter says “ok lol”
- Get forced to complete the purchase
- Saddle Twitter with the debt you now have as a result of buying Twitter
- Invite all the previously-banned bigots and hatemongers back on the site
- Make your staff’s lives hell, including bullshit ‘performance’ stuff like checking how many lines-of-code they write, so most of them are either fired or leave on their own
- Raise API prices sky-high, get ridiculed
- Lock everything behind user log-in, logged-out users can’t see anything
- Rate-limit how many things logged-in users can do
- Break widgets
- Was once the public square of the internet, now weather services are moving to Mastodon
- “why are we still losing money >:(”
- Initiate a half-assed rebrand to “X” but the logo, 𝕏, is literally just a mathematical symbol. Who needs copyright on your billion dollar company’s brand identity, eh?
Whoa, be careful everyone, these are the slick moves of a master genius!
It’s entirely possible that he was smart, I’m sure he was to an extent, but I believe that Space X and Tesla have better structures in places for managing/limiting Musk’s direct influence, and I also believe that, like many of the super rich, he’s succumbed to a form of right-wing brain rot over the years. His brain is now smooth and toxic.
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
I literally said in the comment that you’re responding to that Musk isn’t good at running Twitter.
- TofuScramble ( @TofuScramble@beehaw.org ) English8•11 months ago
It’s a little worse than ‘not going well’, is my point.
- Dr Cog ( @Dr_Cog@mander.xyz ) 18•11 months ago
It’s far easier to be successful if you’re already rich.
- FaceDeer ( @FaceDeer@kbin.social ) 1•11 months ago
He didn’t start off particularly wealthy.
- Proweruser ( @Proweruser@feddit.de ) 19•11 months ago
Exactly! Who’s parents don’t have apartheid emerald mine money?!
- PeachMan ( @PeachMan@lemmy.one ) 6•11 months ago
The decision probably involved a big line of cocaine
- loobkoob ( @loobkoob@kbin.social ) 12•11 months ago
Or two overlapping lines of cocaine!
- PeachMan ( @PeachMan@lemmy.one ) 4•11 months ago
Wow get this genius some venture capital funding
- chris. ( @nihilx7E3@beehaw.org ) 7•11 months ago
man, the whole elon musk/twitter situation seems less & less real the more it plays out
- J.B. Pinkle ( @jbpinkle@beehaw.org ) 16•11 months ago
what an amateurish logo, looks like what a tiny business puts up on their wordpress when they have no designers & are only making a logo
To me it looks legitimately confusingly like the xorg logo, which ironically you usually see on a Linux system only when the config to display the correct logo for something is missing or invalid.
- stravanasu ( @pglpm@lemmy.ca ) English31•11 months ago
In my case this translates to “Twitter is now deleted”.
- sik0fewl ( @sik0fewl@kbin.social ) 7•11 months ago
I deleted Twitter years ago.
- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@beehaw.org ) English29•11 months ago
I wonder how many (e)X-twitter users there will be after this change.
Even Mastodon’s old lingo "toot"ing sounds more trendy than "x"ing a comment.
- HarkMahlberg ( @HarkMahlberg@kbin.social ) 11•11 months ago
"x"ing a comment.
Excreting.
- Master ( @Master@beehaw.org ) English6•11 months ago
If you remember back to your birthday cards as a kid when your loved ones put XOXO in the card… X is kisses.
So Xing is pronounced Kissing!
- wildncrazyguy ( @wildncrazyguy@kbin.social ) 9•11 months ago
Don’t tweet it, just exit.
- andrai ( @andrai@feddit.de ) English3•11 months ago
The X isn’t kisses. The X stand for closes eyes and the O is an open mouth, hence XO = kiss emote and XOXO is the plural
- dan ( @dan@upvote.au ) English21•11 months ago
Doesn’t “XOXO” mean “hugs and kisses”? The X represents a kiss and the O represents a hug.
- Burnt ( @Burnt@lemmy.one ) English10•11 months ago
That was always my understanding of it.
- andrai ( @andrai@feddit.de ) English2•11 months ago
Yeah, you are right. Guess we used it wrong in school.
- Vashti ( @vashti@feddit.uk ) English7•11 months ago
You’re interpreting a much older shorthand with online emoticon rules. XO is a closed-eye open-mouth emoticon, but XOXO has been “hugs and kisses” for long enough to have been used when people wrote letters by hand.
- Silent-G ( @silent_g@beehaw.org ) English1•11 months ago
That never made sense to me. X is the shape of two people hugging and O is the shape of pursed lips.
- dan ( @dan@upvote.au ) English1•11 months ago
Yeah I don’t get it either, but it’s been that way for so long that we as a society probably stopped questioning it.
- linuxduck ( @linuxduck@nerdly.dev ) English1•11 months ago
Yeah that’s what I grew up learning and my mom taught me that x is kisses o is hugs. Til that it’s seen and way!
- thejbw ( @thejbw@lemm.ee ) English5•11 months ago
Wait…it’s not tooting anymore?
- sic_1 ( @sic_1@feddit.de ) English1•11 months ago
I mean I do that daily. Only not on the internets
- curiosityLynx ( @curiosityLynx@kglitch.social ) 28•11 months ago
Apparently Elon has a thing for the letter X. SpaceX, naming his son “X Æ A-12”, and now renaming Twitter.
- red ( @red@feddit.de ) 43•11 months ago
- JohnEdwa ( @JohnEdwa@kbin.social ) 20•11 months ago
Model X is called that because he wanted the models to spell SEXY - but Ford still owns “Model E” so he had to go with S3XY instead.
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) 2•11 months ago
What a tool.
- TommySalami ( @TommySalami@lemm.ee ) 18•11 months ago
Who could blame the greatest minds from being entranced by a mysterious “X”?
- Dandroid ( @dandroid@dandroid.app ) 2•11 months ago
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
Not risking that click 😉
PS. Is Rick-Rolling allowed here, or was that just on R?
- Dandroid ( @dandroid@dandroid.app ) 2•11 months ago
It’s X from the Mega Man X video game series.
- MaggiWuerze ( @MaggiWuerze@feddit.de ) 10•11 months ago
But SpaceX at least is only short for Space Exploration Technologies Corporation
- Rikudou_Sage ( @rikudou@lemmings.world ) English13•11 months ago
Yeah, nothing to do with a man-child giggling that it sounds like space-sex a bit.
- bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 4•11 months ago
But they don’t do exploration? They just do orbit stuff
- MaggiWuerze ( @MaggiWuerze@feddit.de ) 1•11 months ago
Yet
- loops ( @loops@beehaw.org ) 3•11 months ago
Spac Explorathun.
- marco ( @marco@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
“Schadenfreude ist die beste Freude” :p
Facebook/Meta owns the trademark for “X” for use in social networking.
Microsoft owns the trademark for “X” for use in finance/e-commerce.
- Gork ( @Gork@lemm.ee ) 2•11 months ago
Can he legally change his son’s name to use the new x?
𝕏 Æ A-𝕏ii
- ConsciousCode ( @ConsciousCode@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
Apparently according to Elon his wife came up with most of the name
- ono ( @ono@lemmy.ca ) English28•11 months ago
What’s next, Elon? Try to trademark the letter x?
- somniumx ( @somniumx@kbin.social ) 32•11 months ago
Space X will rebrand to S
Tesla To EJust so he gets his S E X “joke” on the second try.
- Chadus_Maximus ( @Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee ) 8•11 months ago
AI he wanted to become the CEO of SEX al along. . .
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) 1•11 months ago
Why didn’t he just buy CEX?
- SpicyPeaSoup ( @SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social ) 6•11 months ago
Elon on his way to sue X-ray manufacturers.
- yads ( @yads@lemmy.ca ) English6•11 months ago
Rebrand to XXX
- Auzy ( @Auzy@beehaw.org ) English7•11 months ago
Elon can ask his ex-president mate to hook him up with some porn stars for twitter
- GrumbleGrim ( @GrumbleGrim@discuss.tchncs.de ) English2•11 months ago
Microsoft might have an issue with that.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English1•11 months ago
The Massachusetts Institute of Technology may also take issue.
- Ram ( @ram@lemmy.ramram.ink ) English27•11 months ago
Rename Twitter Blue to X Pass
Rename the Post Tweet textbox to the X Box
- Pseu ( @Pseu@beehaw.org ) English7•11 months ago
Uploaded videos are now X videos.
- HumbleHobo ( @HumbleHobo@beehaw.org ) English4•11 months ago
what
- TheYang ( @TheYang@lemmy.ml ) English21•11 months ago
yeah, well, even the @twitter account now has the X logo.
x.com redirects to twitter.com as well.
Wonder if Businesses will replace the twitter logo in their windows as well.
- Auzy ( @Auzy@beehaw.org ) English34•11 months ago
At this time, many businesses are indeed probably replacing their twitter logo, with either Mastodon, threads, or nothing as a replacement
- Pseu ( @Pseu@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months ago
Wonder if Businesses will replace the twitter logo in their windows as well.
I doubt they will for a while at least. This change was so sudden that a lot of people will just not know what X is. It doesn’t look like a social media icon and a lot of people will just not be familiar with it.
It’s also horribly forgettable, even if I did use X regularly, I might just forget what the icon looked like out of context.
- Monkey With A Shell ( @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com ) English19•11 months ago
He believes they’re above regulation, if anyone tries to CTL X it just gets cut from the web.
- TerryTPlatypus ( @TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org ) English17•11 months ago
KILL IT
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
- loops ( @loops@beehaw.org ) English5•11 months ago
RIP AND TEAR
- Fizz ( @Fizz@lemmy.nz ) English13•11 months ago
Isn’t that the jagex logo?
- Dandroid ( @dandroid@dandroid.app ) English5•11 months ago
I think it looks different enough from the Jagex logo. Though I think the jury is still out on the X Windows System logo
- SilentStorms ( @SilentStorms@lemmy.ca ) English11•11 months ago
This shit makes Elon look even more like a Bond villain than he already is.
- curiosityLynx ( @curiosityLynx@kglitch.social ) 35•11 months ago
That’s giving him way too much credit. More like an Austin Powers villain, and even that is questionable.
- somniumx ( @somniumx@kbin.social ) 13•11 months ago
Off brand Scooby-Doo villain.
- myrmidex ( @myrmidex@kbin.social ) 3•11 months ago
I wonder who’s under the mask…
- somniumx ( @somniumx@kbin.social ) 8•11 months ago
*Under the Musk
- Treczoks ( @Treczoks@kbin.social ) 9•11 months ago
AKA Twitter is now Fucked?
- DarkenLM ( @DarkenLM@kbin.social ) 8•11 months ago
Was there a time it wasn’t?
- jarfil ( @jarfil@beehaw.org ) 3•11 months ago
There was a time they let people send Tweets through SMS. It almost made sense back then.