AWildMimicAppears ( @AWildMimicAppears@kbin.social ) 27•11 months agoUkraine has come a long way in fighting their corruption issues (which were in part caused by russian loyalists). I really hope they can kick out Putin quick and then join the EU.
zer0 ( @zer0@thelemmy.club ) 3•11 months agohttps://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored
Seem like other states fueled the corruption too
knexcar ( @knexcar@kbin.social ) 17•11 months agoIt’s surprising seeing so much Ukraine hate in one comments section. Did something major happen that changed public opinion?
vegai ( @vegai@suppo.fi ) 20•11 months agoAre you talking about Lemmy? A relatively large bunch of people here are actual real communists, which by some weird thought process becomes a pro-Russian position. So everything Ukraine does or is is wrong if you ask those people.
Best not ask those people.
Addfwyn ( @Addfwyn@lemmy.ml ) 10•11 months agowhich by some weird thought process becomes a pro-Russian position.
I am a communist and the prevailing attitude in most circles I am in is not an explicitly pro-Russian one, it’s just not explicitly pro-Ukraine either. There is a also an underlying understanding of the reasons why the war started. Just because you don’t support one side does not mean you have to 100% uncritically support the opposing side. The sooner we stop thinking of everything in black/white terms of Team A vs Team B, we will be a lot better off.
Now there are those who have nostalgia for the USSR, which is not the modern Russian Federation, but it’s fairly niche. Usually people understand that modern Russia is not the soviet union. There are the patsocs too, but we don’t really claim them.
I am not the Official Spokesman of Communism, but those are generally the attitudes I have seen in most of my circles.
Akasazh ( @Akasazh@lemmy.ml ) 1•11 months agoFairly niche? Most of the lemmygrad people are outright idolizing every totalitarian ‘marxist’ regime of the past century.
I totally get left ideology and do agree with Marx’ ideology, but I’ve never understood how simping for autocrats fits into that.
When I read that Lemmy had an active communist group I was looking forward to that, but the vehemence of the debate and the apologetic whitewashing of history really turned me off.
So yeah, please a debate that isn’t so black and white is very welcome imho.
boredtortoise ( @boredtortoise@lemm.ee ) 8•11 months agoCommunists are very against fascist Russia. It’s just a small totalitarian-minded group masking as communists here who support Russia or some honeypot/psyop
awwwyissss ( @awwwyissss@lemm.ee ) 6•11 months agoThey’re not people, they’re CCP and Kremlin LLM bots.
vegai ( @vegai@suppo.fi ) 4•11 months agoI don’t think it makes much sense for them to be active in such a small thing as Lemmy. I think these people are genuinely like they seem.
awwwyissss ( @awwwyissss@lemm.ee ) 6•11 months agoWhy not? No doubt it’s way easier to set up a bunch of bots accounts here than somewhere like Twitter or Reddit. They don’t even have to worry about looking legit because most of the users here are new accounts.
ArxCyberwolf ( @Snowpix@lemmy.ca ) 16•11 months agoThis is lemmy.ml, which is full of clueless tankies who confuse modern fascist Russia with the Soviet Union and love to consume Russian and Chinese propaganda. Anything “Western” is automatically bad and evil (those damn Anglos or something) and since Ukraine is backed by NATO, it has to be the bad guy. Take a wild guess at what the “.ml” means.
SturgiesYrFase ( @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml ) 3•11 months agoIt’s actually Mali, but they say it stands for Marxist-Leninist
zer0 ( @zer0@thelemmy.club ) 7•11 months agoI guess what changed is that you are not on reddit anymore where nations advertise their propaganda. Ukraine government declared martial law, they are basically a dictatorship.
Lotus Eater ( @Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•11 months agoPublic opinion only gets more positive for Ukraine with each of these high level corruption arrests.
Tankies and dumbasses, think it proves their point that Ukraine will continue to be corrupt.
nyakojiru ( @nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English8•11 months agoThis guy is equally trash than Putin
cnnrduncan ( @cnnrduncan@beehaw.org ) English22•11 months agoReally? He’s equally as bad as the guy responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths due to invading a few neighbouring countries?
Not denying that Ukraine and Zelensky have their fair share of issues but I reckon saying they’re just as bad as Putin is more than a little bit disingenuous.
OrangeSlice ( @14specks@lemmy.ml ) English4•11 months agoLike I mentioned in my other comment, I think that both leaders can and should be criticized independently, a comparison between the two is not useful.
Neither leader is socialist, so in my opinion, neither truly has the best interest of their country’s working class at heart. There could be some observation and speculation about how the possible outcomes of the conflict could promote socialist aims, but that is still independent of both guy themselves.
zer0 ( @zer0@thelemmy.club ) English2•11 months agoDoes it makes a difference if you kill one person or 100? For charts maybe but you are still a murderer even if you kill a bunch. All politicians have blood in their hands, they don’t fight their wars, we do it for them and we get forced to do it. Ukraine is under martial law, males between 18 and 60 can’t leave the country.
hypelightfly ( @hypelightfly@kbin.social ) 5•11 months agoWhen making a comparison, the difference between the two things you’re comparing do in fact matter.
cnnrduncan ( @cnnrduncan@beehaw.org ) English3•11 months agoDo you really think that killing in order to defend yourself and others is the exact same thing as killing in support of ideologies such as fascism or imperialism? Iraqis defending themselves against Americans and Georgians defending themselves against Russians is morally identical to killing children because they speak the wrong language, worship the wrong god, or have skin that’s the wrong colour?