So, hear me out.
I’m a 47 year old guy and I’m not ashamed to say that I enjoy video games. I always have, from playing Head over Heels on a Speccy +2 to ESO and Valorant on my self built PC.
Due to various life circumstances, I’m also on the dating scene and to most women I meet, around my age, video games are anathema. When I say that I like them it’s usually meet with an “oh dear” or a “my son would probably love to talk to you about them, I find them really boring”
I have two boys, both teenagers, both play all the time and sometimes we all play together (although they are better as they have more time to apply to games). Their friends are amazed that I will talk about games with them, that I know someone about games and that I play games. None of their parents want to talk with them about what is effectively their main hobby that they do all the time (big sad).
So the question, there must be some sort of cut off age at which video games are no longer an acceptable pastime. Is it absolute age based (nothing after 35) or is it something to do with the progression of games into popular culture and people born after, say, 1986 will not see it as unacceptable?
I don’t have an answer, I just think it’s an interesting question. Thanks for reading, let me know what you think!
Edit to add: I’m not planning on stopping through peer pressure, just wondering about the phenomenon!
- Beto ( @beto@lemmy.studio ) English108•1 year ago
I’m 45. I spent the weekend playing video games with my 43-year-old girlfriend and her nephew. When we thought she had COVID I bought a couple games that were online multiplayer so we could play together while she was isolated.
You just need to find the right people for you. Put “I love video games” in your Tinder profile, and this will weed out people who think that’s for kids. Put yourself out there as you are, and it will attract the people who like you for who you are.
- shinroo ( @shinroo@feddit.de ) English91•1 year ago
As someone born after 1986 I would consider it weird that there could be an age at which I wouldn’t play games. Just do whatever you enjoy
- CmdrShepard ( @CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ) English4•1 year ago
Yeah it doesn’t seem like an age cutoff so much as a generational cutoff. People born in the 1950s obviously didn’t grow up with arcades and consoles, so few of them would pick up the hobby later in life. Someone born in the mid 1970s like OP would be coming of age right as consoles and PC gaming were hitting the scene so more of that generation would have gamed as kids but still not an overwhelming amount like kids today.
As far as OPs date’s go, they’re probably just envisioning the stereotypical guy who is addicted to gaming and ignores other responsibilities even though that doesn’t seem to be the case. Perhaps he should frame it in a different way like pointing out how he bonds with his kids over them if it’s an issue or just ignore it all together. My wife and I are late 30s and she doesn’t play games outside of a small amount Animal Crossing but she doesn’t care that I enjoy them and I have no plans on quitting as I get older.
- DonnieNarco ( @DonnieNarco@lemmy.one ) English2•1 year ago
This is exactly what I say, that I bond with my son over video games. He is 6.5 now and I am 42…I never want to stop playing games, but I do say that after having a kid I have a lot less time to actually sit down and play.
- cstine ( @cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business ) English57•1 year ago
Nah. If you enjoy it, and your kids like spending time with you gaming, then who cares?
Life is too short and kids grow up too fast to care what some grumpy old people who wouldn’t know fun if it hit them in the head will say about what you enjoy.
- Kajo [he/him] 🌈 ( @Kajo@beehaw.org ) English46•1 year ago
It’s not a question of age, but of culture. Video game are no longer niche stuff for a handful of nerds. It’s a huge industry, like music or cinema.
People who say that games are childish are just trying to hide their ignorance.
- RealAccountNameHere ( @RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org ) English39•1 year ago
I’m a 47-year-old female gamer.
I’m with you—I’m not going to allow peer pressure to get to me, but it’s obvious that people believe it’s childish. Fuck 'em. I think it’s a better hobby than mindlessly watching TV, for sure.
- Doug [he/him] ( @Doug@midwest.social ) English6•1 year ago
With video games you participate in the development of the story at least
- YourHeroes4Ghosts ( @YourHeroes4Ghosts@beehaw.org ) English33•1 year ago
I’m a 51 year old woman who plays video games (including ESO, PC/EU). We exist. If there is some sort of arbitrary cutoff age when I’m supposed to stop gaming, I will be steadfastly ignoring that “rule”, if I haven’t already.
- elsif ( @elsif@lemm.ee ) English32•1 year ago
It might be an age thing - I’m 32, game as a hobby, and work in software. 80% of my coworkers play games to some extent, and most are in their twenties to mid thirties.
But when I used to work in healthcare, I think only a few of my coworkers shared the hobby.
Generally, I think the younger the generation is, the more acceptable and “normal” gaming is. It’s not a guarantee, but it’s definitely more common.
Edit: I’d just be yourself and do as you like. There’s definitely people out there who share your hobby. Some of the older members of a long-standing guild I’m a part of are in their 50’s or retired. I will say that the gender ratio skews mostly male for older gamers though. The women I know who are interested in games are all sub 40 (this is just a personal observation, your results may vary)
Thanks for the observations, I think you’re right it’s generational.
- SMTRodent ( @SMTRodent@sopuli.xyz ) English29•1 year ago
I think from Gen X onwards it just gets more and more common.
Also, people will say “I don’t play computer/video games” and then spend hours on Candy Crush or whatever.
Ooh, interesting point about Candy Crush, I hadn’t thought about that. Mobile games are the socially acceptable face of gaming!
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English25•1 year ago
to most women I meet, around my age, video games are anathema.
You should be grateful for them filtering themselves out of your dating pool so quickly. Not all red flags are that obvious.
- sichtbar ( @sichtbar@feddit.de ) English25•1 year ago
I thinkt it’s more a thing of social bubbles than age brackets, really.
- rjh ( @rjh@beehaw.org ) English10•1 year ago
I agree, it’s who you date. I have dated women in their 30s and 40s who play games. One really wanted to play Beat Saber in VR. One plays Spiderman on the PS4. Even if they say “I don’t play games” on the first date, they might be hiding a Switch under their pillow…
- wintrparkgrl ( @wintrparkgrl@beehaw.org ) English24•1 year ago
“what is the age cut off for socially acceptable fun having” is what I read. Do what you enjoy and anyone saying you shouldn’t do X, or you are too old to do Y aren’t the type of people I associate with. Just turned 30 and I never plan to stop.
- NightOwl ( @NightOwl@lemmy.one ) English8•1 year ago
Same with music too. Some people just don’t ever branch out to listen to new genres and keep listening to the oldies they did. Being open to new things instead of staying within the bubble of what peer groups says is acceptable seems the way to go to not become stagnant losing touch with what is going on in the world.
That’s a really interesting point about music and culture. Do you want to come along for the ride or did you get to your teens and cry “hold, enough”?
- frogman [he/him] ( @frogman@beehaw.org ) English22•1 year ago
i’m 21, it wouldn’t be weird if you were gaming at 77, let alone 47 lol
maybe it’s not intergenerational :p
- at_an_angle ( @at_an_angle@lemmy.one ) English6•1 year ago
Yup. I’ll stop playing video games when I die or society collapses.
- Cholsonic ( @Cholsonic@lemmy.one ) English3•1 year ago
Fuck that… if society collapses, I’ll still be playing video games. Only need a small solar cell to keep the 3DS topped up.
- Takatakatakatakatak ( @bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English21•1 year ago
My dad is 66. He still games every day. Go dad! He’s just about to fully complete fallout 4. Fuck anyone who doesn’t get it, their opinions don’t matter. Do what makes you happy.
- super_user_do ( @super_user_do@feddit.it ) English3•1 year ago
Ultra based dad
- livendie ( @livendie@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
I used to love video-games when I was 10-18yo. It was fun. Growing up abit more(21yo), saw the magic die. Can relate to the ones that “don’t get it”. There opinion does matter. I’d rather read a book than play a video-game any day of the week.
- BinaryEnthusiast ( @BinaryEnthusiast@beehaw.org ) English4•1 year ago
I take it more as “their opinion doesn’t matter to me since I’m still having fun”. I definitely get the magic leaving though, as I don’t play as grind heavy games as I used to. I enjoy more story driven games now though. As long as you still get your stuff done and don’t let it become an obsession, gaming is a valid hobby
- Manticore ( @Manticore@beehaw.org ) English21•1 year ago
Be 80 and play FIFA, it’s fine. There’s no age where you are obliged to put down your controller for the last time. But it shouldn’t be your first answer while you’re dating, and definitely not your only one.
Being a gamer, as an identity, has a lot of baggage.
Having gaming be your only interest or hobby is associated with being an unambitious self-interested person who intends to do as a little as possible, as long as possible. The recognisable games are marketed towards kids/teens with time to burn.
Imagine your date’s interest was “moderating Reddit”, “watching TikTok”, or “reading Instagram”. That’s what ‘gaming’ sounds like: your hobby is media consumption.
There’s no age where you aren’t allowed to consume media; but it’s worrying if that consumption is your identity, if consumption makes up your routine.
So it’s not actually about age - it’s about maturity and goal-setting.
When we’re younger, most of us live moment-by-moment. Media consumption offers no future, but it has a pleasurable present.
But as people age, people develop goals and interests that require more investment and focus, and they’re looking for people that are doing the same. A cutthroat economy demands people develop goals for financial stability, even if they still otherwise like games.
As we age, we stop looking for somebody to hang out with, but to build a life with.
So once the people you’re talking to have interests for the future, “I enjoy my present doing my own thing” doesn’t offer them anything. If they don’t play games, they don’t even know what games are capable of. Maybe one day they’d enjoy playing Ultimate Chicken Horse with you.
But right now, they just see the recognisable titles that want to monopolise children’s time, and assume you’re doing that. They picture you spending 20+ hours a week playing Fortnite. And there is an age cut-off where it’s no longer socially-acceptable to be a child.
It’s not that video games are bad, but they’re a non-answer. They want to know what you do that’s good, and a non-answer implies you don’t have a good answer at all, and that makes video games ‘bad’.
- ElmarsonTheThird ( @ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de ) English9•1 year ago
That’s what ‘gaming’ sounds like: your hobby is media consumption.
It’s really weird that people who have “reading books” as their main hobby are not as stigmatized as their digital media counterparts. Is it the digital aspect that turns the hobby into weirdness?
- paszq ( @paszq@beehaw.org ) English7•1 year ago
I agree that it shouldn’t be the only thing you do, but if somebody dismisses your interests while they know almost nothing about it - then good riddance. Reading books is media consumption and a very broad statement as well - is that a non-answer too?
Also I bet it’s not like these people are curing cancer or feeding starving orphans in their free time.
- Manticore ( @Manticore@beehaw.org ) English6•1 year ago
I think the distinction is that reading books implies you might have interesting discussions about ideas or themes. Video games do not imply that.
The reality is that there is a lot of excellent discussion in video game themes - Spec Ops: The Line, or dystopias like Cyberpunk 2077. Games have been political for as long as they’ve had any narrative structure at all. But video games have a reputation (and history) of being children’s toys, and the only people who understand their narrative power are also gamers.
Compare somebody who claims their hobby is watching arthouse films, versus somebody whose hobby is watching TikTok. They’re both watching videos play in front of them, but the assumption is that the former is consuming the content with a critical eye and learning from it; the latter is merely consuming it for shallow entertainment. The reductionist conclusion is that ‘Arthouse viewer’ can hold a conversation; ‘TikTok viewer’ cannot.
- ModularTable ( @modulartable@beehaw.org ) English20•1 year ago
Do what you enjoy, I’m nearly 30 and I plan to game until some pries this mouse and keyboard or my controller from my cold dead hands! Have fun and don’t worry about it!
- patchymoose ( @patchymoose@rammy.site ) English9•1 year ago
I think our generation will definitely have consoles set up in nursing homes when we are elderly. No doubt about it.