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sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 3 years ago

Ohh yeah, EMPRESS drama is BACK!

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Ohh yeah, EMPRESS drama is BACK!

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sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 3 years ago
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  • Maho ( Maho@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Seriously? their attack against an asshole transphobe is… calling her tr*nny and being exactly as shitty as her?

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      That’s why it’s so juicy, they’re all such terrible people we don’t have to pick sides

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        Literally Jersey Shore for nerds… Why do we primates love trashy drama so much???

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          • ninjan ( ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com ) 
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            Yeah, I agree but at the same time I can’t look away from shit like this either…

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  • Dr. Jenkem ( DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube ) 
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    I have half a mind to start releasing cracks just so there’s 1 cracker who isn’t a fucking bigot.

    EDIT: btw, didn’t Voksi get arrested back in 2018? And EMPRESS started releasing cracks in like 2019. So are we to believe that Voksi goes to jail for a year, and immediately comes out and starts cracking again, all without receiving another visit from the feds? Doubt.

    EDIT2: lol here’s Voksi’s response: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2218172

    Fuck EMPRESS and SKIDROW, SKIDROW for dragging Voksi into the petty bullshit and both of them for their childish, edgleord bullshit.

    • yukichigai ( yukichigai@kbin.social ) 
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      I have half a mind to start releasing cracks just so there’s 1 cracker who isn’t a fucking bigot.

      I have had this exact thought, but that would undoubtedly eat up what little free time I have these days. I don’t have as much of it as I used to.

      • Hudell ( Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        And that’s why all those folks have mental issues. Having the skill is not enough, you need to pretty much dedicate your whole life to “the craft”

    • sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) OP
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      No need to crack games but hear me out: fork goldberg emu and maintain

    • gamer ( gamer@lemm.ee ) 
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      I don’t get why people here are expecting pirates of all people to be polite company.

      • Hazard ( Hazard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Fair point.

  • Ethalia ( 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch ) 
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    Seems like no cracker or repacker is ever mentally sane. Like, defending DRM and trans-slurs? Really? Not like Empress is normal either but wtf

    • Helix 🧬 ( Helix@feddit.de ) 
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      Yeah, the anti-gay and anti-trans commentary really made me repulse.

    • CaptainBasculin ( CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Most of the old scene thought of cracking DRM in games as a challange within themselves, and did it for the competition. Skidrow’s thoughts align with this mindset. You can’t blame skidrow for that.

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        You definitely can blame them for the slurs, and defending DRM really doesn’t win over your fanbase.

        • daq ( daq@lemmy.daqfx.com ) 
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          What fan base? A thousand or so people that read the NFOs? 99% of crack users don’t even pay attention to the group that released it.

          • Ethalia ( 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch ) 
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            Most people almost never download NFOs that’s true. But if you’re a regular then you pay attention to which team does the work at least, so you’re not hacked or injected with cryptoshit.

          • Sturgist ( Sturgist@lemmy.ca ) 
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            When I torrent skidrow cracked games I usually don’t even download the NFO

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    What the fuck? First they call out Empress for actually being a man from Bulgaria. Then they drop a transphobic slur. Then they defend DRM and publishers.
    I can understand supporting the developers and promoting buying software you enjoy when you can. But one of the big motivations for cracking software is software preservation and removing DRM that harms legit user experiences. So I say again, wtf?

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      I didn’t understand the DRM part neither.

    • Rikudou_Sage ( rikudou@lemmings.world ) Banned
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      There’s this thing where they pretend they actually do it to be first and not because they want people to download their cracks. And that’s how you get the crazy talk where they pretend they’re pro-DRM.

    • Infiltrated_ad8271 ( Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social ) 
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      The worst thing is that, compared to empress, they were quite moderate. I don’t know what’s wrong with them or why they’re all so mad… but I love the drama, I’m looking forward to the next episode.

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      Raging people seldom make much sense or consistency.

    • sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) OP
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      🍿🍿

  • sourcery ( sourcery@lemmy.one ) 
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    I did not have defending DRM on my bingo card. Transphobia is especially vile though.

    • sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) OP
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      Defending the intent behind DRM is fine, but DRM is the worst

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns] ( uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Nope. The problem is DRM that works is always abused. Remember the unskippable ads on DVDs and Blu-Rays? Always.

  • SilentStorms ( SilentStorms@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Jesus, everyone involved in this shit is so deranged. God I hope the “Scene” dies out with the next generation, just chill people releasing cracks without following a tome of rules and schizoposting.

    • Goodtoknow ( Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Is there some correlation with this insane low level understanding of software engineering and a mental health issues? A lot of the scene seems to be like this and good old Terry Davis (rest in peace you racist)

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        Unironically, yes. Multiple studies dating back years have found a link between high intelligence and various mental health issues.
        There was one particular paper I read about a decade ago, where researchers surveyed a bunch of collage students to find demographic trends based on their preferred operating system. From what I recall, the demographics of Windows users were not too far off from those of the university as whole, and Mac users were similar, aside from women being significantly over-represented. Linux users on the other hand, were almost all men, and nearly every mental health issue imaginable was over-represented by a huge margin.

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          That’s funny, but I’m betting my nutsack that you just made that up, or it’s copy pasta.

        • pitl ( pitl@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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          As a CS dude who uses Linux and is around way too many people who seem like they genuinely are in need of some therapy on a daily basis, this entirely checks out, tbh.

          I’m now mildly worried for my own mental state

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            It’s ok amigo, from this one comment I’ve read of yours you seem like you are just fine

        • WeirdGoesPro ( WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          I use Linux, and my wife’s head in the freezer says I’m perfectly sane.

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        • Hudell ( Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          Well there’s a million ways you can interpret that data. Apple usually makes very opinionated stuff (“this is how it works and this is how you’re going to use it”). Autistic folks tend to do have big issues with that sort of stuff, so it’s only natural they’ll gravitate to something else where they can use it whoever they feel is better.

          And women in general have been pushed away from IT for a few decades due to how they’re treated in those groups, so it’s only natural they’ll be underrepresented among Linux users.

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      • Uriel238 [all pronouns] ( uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        In my experience, mental health issues are epidemic. The only question is if someone has been assessed, and then had a professional admit to them they have a diagnosis. Mind you, it’s hard to be healthy, and most people are still functional (as much as our late-state capitalist society will let them) but we noticed that mental illness was epidemic in the 1990s, likely due to major societal shifts in the industrial age: We’re used to having more of a social support system than we do. So I suspect that we’re all mad as hatters, and it’s intergenerational.

    • sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) OP
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      I don’t even pirate anymore, I’m just here with the popcorn

    • AnarchoYeasty ( AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) Banned
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  • FeelzGoodMan420 ( FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ) 
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    I don’t pirate games but after reading this, I DEFINITELY will not pirate games. If these clowns are the ones cracking/repacking the games then I do NOT trust the games to not contain malware/bullshit/whatever. Maybe I’m being paranoid but I wouldn’t go anywhere near software put out by these people. They sound like the types to include malware just to frame the other group or whatever. Idk. These people are morons.

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      The only repacks I trust are FitGirl’s, mostly because they’re compressed to all hell and she’s always just… kept her head down.

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        That’s the way. Just keep your head down and don’t engage with morons.

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      nowadays I assume cracked software (unless if the crack script is fully open source) to likely contain some kind of malware and I just sandbox them since I play cracked games with bottles flatpak anyway.

      • FeelzGoodMan420 ( FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ) 
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        What is bottles flakpak?

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          Flatpak is a linux package format. Bottles is a gui software that makes it easy to run windows software (especially games) on linux (it is a very good gui/management tool for wine)

          • sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) OP
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            Casual wine/proton W

    • Aatube ( Aatube@kbin.social ) 
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      There are a lot of other legit crackers besides these two

      • FeelzGoodMan420 ( FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ) 
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        I thought I read there’s only like 1 that does DRM cracking anymore. That’s not the case?

        • totallynotfbi ( totallynotfbi@lemm.ee ) 
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          This is for a specific DRM called Denuvo. Most games don’t have it, but the big titles do

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            Is there only 1 that does denuvo?

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              Anymore? Yes. Used to be more, but at this point it’s basically just the shittiest person of the bunch.

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              It appears only the most deranged of the bunch are willing to dedicate their time cracking Denuvo.

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    Drama aside, Skidrow really does “cracks”? I thought they were only repackers.

    Voksi, you fokkin prick, DRM exists for a reason in this world, it protects legitimate interests of actual hard working people, that are entitled to get a decent income from their hard effort!!!

    I’m not on any “side” but wut? We are talking about a repacker to a cracker, I think they can be considered equally “guilty” in the sense of “making hard-working people lose money” by distributing the games themselves. And what the hell, I’m pretty sure that’s not the reason DRM exists, and if it is, it’s to secure the income of companies, not their workers.

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      A lot of scene people say they only do it for the “competition and glory” (which they said in here) because none of them really play the games they crack, but obviously it’s hypocritical as fuck.

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      They cracked Denuvo on Fe recently. Granted that is a Unity3D game so the modular approach makes it slightly easier to crack.

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    Personally I don’t give a fuck about all this drama, it’s like a cockfight for me, but a scene group defending DRM !? Finally may be they got paid to avoid denuvo releases…!?

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    I guess the takeaway is that Empress is deranged weird and Skidrow are creepy weird.

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    I don’t really understand how can a pirate defend DRM

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      DRM cracking is treated as a sport by the Scene. They don’t actually care about pirate philosophies and such, only the challenge.

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        They like to pretend so.

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    • sounddrill ( sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) OP
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      PLEASE, CRACK A GAME AND PUT THIS ON AN NFO!

      The world needs this

      Can be something simple like steamdrm

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  • Rikudou_Sage ( rikudou@lemmings.world ) Banned
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    If they feel like they have a moral high ground, they’re mistaken. Both empress and skidrow are a piece of trash.

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      Only goldberg was wholesome, till little kids did their thing

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    I like how everyone is concerned about the trans slurs but completely ignores them dropping the n word. Sounds about white for the crowd here I guess

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      Tbf, I simply didn’t see it because I stopped reading halfway through. On the other hand, “tranny” is right at the beginning (and I think somewhere else too), and they seem to intentionally misgender Empress quite a few times, so they stick out quite a lot.

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      Probably because

      1. The n-word is dropped in a less interesting section of the rant that could feasibly be skipped
      2. It’s not a hard R
      3. We don’t know the race of the author
      4. The t-slur comes way earlier and is seen on multiple occasions, perhaps prompting a comment prior to finishing reading.
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        1. It doesn’t make it any less of a slur.
        2. You’re right we don’t know for sure. But come on, we absolutely all know what fucking race the author of this post isn’t.
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          1. This is clear and willful culture ignorance and I implore you to give Grand Theft Auto V a casual play as a relevant, reasonably modern, and prevalent example of how this isn’t the case.
          2. I’m not in the business of pretending I know someone’s physical attributes based on some text. I’ve had multiple people throughout the years surprise me with info about who they are after literal years of “knowing” them.
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            Holy fuck I know you did not just say you can say the fucking n word because of GTA. It doesn’t matter how many of your favorite rap songs say it. It doesn’t matter if your favorite video game says it. You cannot fucking say it. Jesus fuck are we letting the racists just be on these communities now? Get the fuck out of here you racist piece of shit.

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      Idk I stopped reading and immediately assumed the rest was horseshit when I saw the t word. Didn’t even get to the n word.

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      yeah that’s pretty crazy lmao

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        Not only is this racist but it’s lazy and unfunny too, even without the racism. Who buys discs anymore? Are you a boomer?

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        Yeah you failed yourself and embarrassed everyone in the room. Prrrfww…

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      • AnarchoYeasty ( AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) Banned
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        That is absolutely 100% what I am saying and is 100% the truth. You may think it’s “retarded” (nice ableism) but that’s probably because you are white and don’t talk to or listen to black people. Talk to any black woman or black trans person and ask them if they feel white people care about racism. News flash: the vast majority of white people and white progressives do not fucking care about racism unless it’s convenient for them to do so.

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    It’s crazy to be talented at reverse-engineering and needing all the attention. Guys, stop fighting a second, you need to be united if you want to defeat the DRMs!

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