Dont even need to watch the whole video. This is all you gotta see.
Damn they tried to plug LTT store too. GN made a long serious video with stats, data, no jokes, no sponsors or plugs.
Yeah no they’re not salvageable. Linus is a clown. My friends even told me, but I didn’t see it. That’s the consequence of growing up surrounded by toxicity: you think it’s normal and don’t see it.
I watched LTT videos for entertainment, not product suggestions / benchmarks / as an information source. Clown it is!
Granted I already unsubscribed from the channels I followed and won’t use him for even that anymore.
I find it a little bit hard to enjoy the content, now that I know how to interpret it.
It’s kinda like when you find a great restaurant around the corner, go there a lot, enjoy the food, and then you realize they abuse their personal, lie to everyone about what is in the dishes (allergens etc), and so on. Can’t really enjoy the food anymore. The taste hasn’t changed, but it hits different.
I agree. The content definitely always gave off the impression of being rushed, just didn’t realize it was to such a degree.
Yes, but actually no. I think it was rather self aware. And nick whispering lttstore when saying what he does was fine imo.
To be fair to Luke, in regards to the “six nines” comment in the video that a lot of people think is part of a sex joke (and how the video is framing it), in the proper context he was talking about IT infrastructure and this comment actually refers to a target for high availability: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability
99.9999% availability (ie. uptime) = “six nines”
He was basically saying that they’re setting a target for higher availability of their infrastructure, because it’s been unstable at times, causing staff frustration and delaying certain workflows.
I can’t blame a lot of average people who don’t work in any sort of IT field for confusing it with the “69” sex position (wondering what the heck “six nines” means), but that’s not at all what he was making reference to.
I’m not at all defending anything else in relation to this debacle besides this unfair portrayal of this particular snippet.
EDIT: Just wanted to add, I think it’s pretty sad that pistol fingers and a wink these days apparently must mean you’re making a sex joke (or are trying to offend people in some other way). As a kid I remember this gesture being used to “act cool”. We did it all the time back then, and it was all in fun. Luke’s from my generation, so maybe he thought the same, or maybe we didn’t get the memo that this gesture is off-limits now.
Yeah the wink and the finger guns and the coy voice really scream “server uptime” to me
Go touch grass. It was an double entendre and LMG is fucking gross.
6 nines is a fucking meme. It’s literally impossible, but everyone claims it. That’s the joke.
It’s pretty fucking funny too.
I don’t know man, I just saw it as some IT guy on screen setting an SLA goal I see all the time and trying to do an “act cool” gesture. People can interpret it how they want, but that’s how I saw it.
Oh the term was alright, it’s his 100% intentional innuendo that was the problem.
He didn’t hide it nor he even slightly direct viewers to actual term.
He only meant 69 and he showed it that way
Its an innuendo. 5 nines is basically impossible, not even FAANG can really hit it 100%.
It doesn’t matter if the SLA is realistically reachable or not, it’s basically a marketing meme and one of the most common target SLAs in IT (“target” doesn’t mean you can actually reach it, you’re aiming for it though).
See here: https://lemmy.pub/comment/1046563
I understand its a marketing term. But context matters and when its done with the tech bro chuckle/stammer and wink…its an innuendo…
I mean…tone matters here. Look at how its stated.
I felt while watching the full video (before I saw this one, so I knew the entire tone and context from where this clip came from), that this particular segment had an appropriate tone, felt professional, and I just didn’t feel like anything said by Luke leading up to the last two words was out of line. And when he dropped the “six nines” SLA and seemed to be “playing it cool” while doing so, my only thought was “Oh, I know what he’s referring to, they’re setting a high goal for HA just like other major companies out there. Nice.” That was just the way it hit me personally. If others want to read into it further, well, they will I guess.
If it was just that then maybe I could read that. But given most other managers prior tried to shove in some random, totally awkward and out of place plug or joke to lighten the tone, that is not how it was read by me (and that’s not my YouTube video to be clear.).
It’s all contextual.
I can understand that based on the prior segments in the video, it sets the tone and the mood for the segments that come later from the viewer’s perspective as a whole. But at the same time, we should try to treat them individually, as hard as that can be to remember, when judging the people speaking during their turn. Because at the time of filming, each of these separate people were working alone, and giving their own takes in a silo. So though the video as a whole was pretty badly handled in my opinion, that’s a separate judgement aside from how each individual handled their own part. It’s just my opinion that Luke on his own didn’t really do much to be offended by.
Thats a fair point. Whoever directed these should has asked or cut out the jokes. Really shows they continually failed to read the room.
LOL That number of nines is specifically referenced by an industry dominated by tech bros though. It could just as easily be 5 9s or 7 9s but for some reason it has to be 6 9s? And I know it’s a recurring joke for LTT but that doesn’t mean you should put it, or ANY joke into an apology video of all things?! What were they THINKING?! Besides it’s a tired and souless attempt at humour that should’ve been retired years ago
LOL That number of nines is specifically referenced by an industry dominated by tech bros though. It could just as easily be 5 9s or 7 9s but for some reason it has to be 6 9s?
Actually, the “nines” go all the way from “one nine” through “nine nines”, exactly the way you wondered about when you said “It could just as easily be […]”. It’s actually exactly that way, and the chart that shows this is found in my first post on the linked Wikipedia article. Refer to the “Percentage calculation” chart about “High availability”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability
“Six nines” is just another SLA calculation on the chart, but is one of the most commonly referenced in marketing material in the industy. That’s why you see a lot more about it online than the other percentages, but you see reference to the others out there (ie. Amazon references “nine nines” in their S3 object storage marketing in terms of data durability). “Six nines” roughly corresponds to 30 seconds of downtime per year. Maybe it’s used more often because that’s an easy SLA to remember.
Anyway, the point is that it’s not some tech bro-dominated industry inside sex joke. It’s a real, valid SLA, and it’s not the only one. Just the most commonly referenced.
Yeah, I’m fullly aware of all the other 9s used which is why I suggested they could just as easily say they’re aiming for 7 9s or as Amazon does, 9 9s or any other basically impossible to hit asperational goal that’s nice to try for but for SOME REASON the most often quoted / used one is 6 9s? Coincidence you say? Is it super important to aim for 30 seconds per year versus about 5 min per year? Why not aim for 3 seconds / year rather than 30 seconds? Because then you can’t say 6 9 Nice! That’s literally the only reason right?
I don’t know man. It’s a valid SLA target which is often and widely used in the industry at large, it’s almost like muscle memory to some people to just cite it when talking about HA. And even if they regularly make “69” jokes or whatever on their channels, I personally didn’t read far enough into it in this segment of the video to get the impression that they might be making a sex joke. There was no lead-up to one or anything in the original context. All he said at the end of his segment was that their goal was “six nines” plus the “act cool” pose (how I personally interpreted it). And I just felt like “Okay, so they’re aiming for the usual SLA you see most big companies aiming for”. Like, that’s all that went through my mind personally.
If anything, maybe it’s inconclusive if it was meant as an actual sex joke. I said in my original post I could see how uninformed viewers might see it differently, so I’m trying to leave some leeway for understanding of how it might have made others feel.
I’m not saying 100% it couldn’t be one, but I personally didn’t feel like it was. Everyone is free to interpret it how they want, I just wanted to point out that he used a real term that isn’t inherently sexual (and lots of people don’t know about it), so it’s a possibility he actually just meant to cite a real SLA to those in-the-know.
I cannot believe how many brainwashed PCMR zealots are in here downvoting legitimate points.
How the hell does this guy have such a hold on you all? Wake up!
Man, if you’re gonna be so deep up in their ass, at least do them a favor and watch for Polyps.
Linus should have employed a professional CEO, Managers, PR and HR years ago, right at the start of the labs expansion.
Their problems in the last couple of years could have been avoided or greatly reduced with better management, and employees not afraid to be open when things go wrong, this will set them back years.
Supposedly Linus didn’t think he could trust anyone else to essentially act as his proxy. And he’s just been bugging Terren for years to come to LTT. And it only now worked out. If you can call all this “working out”
It’s not just about trust, professional experienced ceos, who have been educated in business management know how to run businesses, it’s what they do, it doesn’t matter what the product or service is, that can be learned. Linus was too proud to hand control of his baby over, that’s very, very common with businesses that start to grow faster than they can handle and it’s a reason why start ups fail despite their successes and promise. Lmg is extremely lucky to have gotten as far and as large as it did without the necessary restructure to go to the next step.
Once you get into the 50+ full time employee range you need pro’s on the team because shit will happen, mistakes will be made, people will fuck up, that’s unavoidable. Good strong businesses handle it well, it’s rough cause sometimes you have to fire an OG team member and close friend and ruin a friendship. It sucks and people will hate you, but that’s part of running a large company.
Lmg had been incredibly successful and that’s great, kudos the them for that, but you have to have the humility to stand up at some point and day “I don’t know what the fuck I’m doing and I need” any business adviser or analyst will tell you that.
“I don’t know what the fuck I’m doing and I need” any business adviser or analyst will tell you that.
Much easier to do when you’re not dealing with a narcissist who, if he cant be right no matter how much he doubles down, then he’ll atleast make himself look like a victim to get that sweet sympathy feed for his narcissism.
Poor dude inherited a shit show
They simply tried to lower the tension. This type of humour is their watermark, they even mention in the video that they are available to make changes but not to take away the goofiness.
Some of you are raging over something innocuous.
They simply tried to lower the tension. This type of humour is their watermark
Yeah, I agree with that assessment, but that tone is absolutely not okay in the current context.
If very dark humour is your “type of humour”, it doesn’t mean you can just go “business as usual” and make dark jokes around someone right after they lost a loved one, had a tragic accident, got SA’d, etc.
Linus tried to weasel out of the GN accusations by saying he “failed to read the room”. That was because entertainment is about reading the room, while reviewing is about accuracy and objectivity. Then, he failed to recognize that (but GN was there to remind everyone, fortunately).
In this case, however, when going with their usual “entertainment” vibe, he should have “read the room”. Which not only he failed miserably to do, but all of the LMG management (including the new “they’re gonna solve all the problems” additions) too apparently.
This does not bode well for LMG. It is proof they are clueless, do not have the skills to fix their problems, and aren’t to be expected to get any better. It’s a shame, because it was good entertainment. At least for as long as I had Linus in my blind spot. Now, I can’t unsee it, and I can absolutely imagine how much of a bully he is remembered being by people from his past (he mentioned that in passing here and there).
I feel like if they hadn’t acted like LTT does with the humor and hallmarks, people would have called it a worthless generic apology video.
Now they call it insensitive and all that. I have a feeling there was no winning for them.
So when Linus cries to camera about YouTube affecting his income that’s goofy is it? Imagine defending this abhorrence.
I haven’t followed LTT channels in years.
I am simply concerned because I believe they couldn’t have handled the aftermath better. So I don’t understand many reactions I see on the WWW.
They did quite some mistakes, yes. Those mistakes would be enough for me to stop following their content, yes. But why enrage?
So first you thought it was innocuous, now you think they couldn’t have handled this better. What’s next, are you going to blame the victims?
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) English7•11 months ago
Damn I mean that was cringe AF.
By lower tensions, do you mean deflect and whine about people questioning integrity, especially after countless videos from Linus himself chastising other companies for their poor crisis responses and/or inability to accept full responsibility?
He’s a hypocrite, I am not denying that.
Linus Media Group is not Linus, though.
Yes, it is. The company is named after the guy, he’s front and center and he is the brand. I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say.
Ok, I was wrong…I haven’t watched the whole video yet, but the bits this video showed really does make it seem worse than the Spez AMA. At least Spez was smart enough to keep the answers short and concise, even if they ignored all the questions.
That was all of the cringy parts. The whole of the rest of it is basically fine. Just people saying “We messed up in these ways and we think it was for these reasons. We are going to do xyz to try to make sure we don’t mess up in similar ways moving forwards.”
I never understood why their channel have been so popular? Every video felt like a scammer who want to sell me stolen stuff.
Can someone explain the popularity of them?
Are we just really posting selective parts of this video? I could have sworn that when journalists / the media do this everyone is up in arms about bias and creating a narrative, but when we do it I guess it’s fine?
It’s called “entertainment”. You know, as opposed to serious journalism. If you ever watched any LMG video, you should know all about this particular distinction… ;)
Stop stop he’s had enough!!! Let him live
Ooooh that’s good
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I don’t think this is meant as a replacement for the original. It seems like the creator just wanted to clown on LTT for their subpar and disrespectful response to the controversy.
I’ve seen the whole video as well, it’s somehow actually worse than this clipped version lol