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Yeah, just wanted to say this. In almost all experiments with Universal Basic Income it turns out people don’t wanna scroll Tiktok 24/7 or whatever. Most people want to do thinks that we would call “work”. We just don’t wanna do them in this capitalist hellscape full of meaningless bullshit jobs.
There are a lot of meaningful but awful jobs out there, like picking crops and scrubbing public toilets, that nobody in their right mind wants to do. Perhaps they can be automated, but we’d have to automate them and institute UBI at the same time in order to avoid mass starvation and/or civilization collapsing. Seems tricky…
I don’t think that people don’t like doing those jobs. I believe that it comes back to the toil aspect, since those jobs are undervalued the pay is low and the hours are long. The two solutions I see are:
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People who would enjoy that kind of work, but don’t want to work the grueling hours will do it.
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For things like harvesting, there was already a good (If inhumane) option, Serfs. You only need o harvest a couple times a year, so if you’re on UBI then a couple times a year everyone goes and harvests the fields.
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I’d love to scrap toilets for the right pay.
I feel like we are already beginning to see an inversion in wages, where education is less valued and skilled labor is more valued.
Either UBI will include compulsory labor in low supply jobs or those jobs will earn a premium.
Succinctly well said. Cheers.
Newspapers, owned by rich people, have been regurgitating the same conservative talking points.
I think you could broaden that out and call them capitalist talking points.
Nobody wants to work, they just have to in order to survive.
take it from me, I’ve worked before and it sucks.
Any idea on any of these sources? It’d be great to be able to point to actual articles dating back more than a century when having a conversation/debate/argument about the “nobody wants to work” narrative
Thanks! Wow Snopes is thorough!
This is legit amazing. Thank you
tl;dr: nobody ever wanted to work
It’s telling how the old quote includes “for wages”
Our society has been dragged so far right that we harldy discuss abolition of the wage system these days.
It’s not an issue about working. Its an issue about working for wages (as opposed to workers owning the means of production and distributing the profits democratically and equally)
Nobody wants to work … for the peanuts we’re offering.
Nobody on this Com wants to work anymore, they just keep posting the same stuff. This is image is recycled fodder that keeps showing up in my feed. Work on your posts at least people!
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