Zagorath ( @Zagorath@aussie.zone ) English35•10 months agoMy vote goes to that episode in season 1 of TNG where they’re fighting black people on like a jungle gym.
Zagorath ( @Zagorath@aussie.zone ) English11•10 months agoEither that or just…all of Sub Rosa.
yads ( @yads@lemmy.ca ) 8•10 months agoAh yes the African planet. Real TOS reject episode vibes.
NuPNuA ( @NuPNuA@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoWhat’s hilarious is the same writer got away with the same episode in SG1s first season just with Asians rather than Black people.
Zagorath ( @Zagorath@aussie.zone ) English3•10 months agoSelf-plagiarism is the best form of plagiarism. Especially when you plagiarise a paper that got a D.
socsa ( @socsa@lemmy.ml ) 5•10 months agoShut up Wesley!
cheery_coffee ( @cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca ) 26•10 months agoProbably the DS9 episode where they give Quark a sex change operation and the Ferenghi liquidator tries to rape him.
They should delete that episode, there’s no value in watching it.
riley0 ( @riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 13•10 months agoFor me, it echoed real life, when someone with power over you wants something you shouldn’t have to and don’t want to give. It was uncomfortable, and I’m glad they did it.
cheery_coffee ( @cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca ) 15•10 months agoI think the problem was it was treated as a comedy and not a serious issue which it could have been.
riley0 ( @riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 4•10 months agoMaybe comedy was the way they got it on air at that time. I seem to remember an article about the size of the bosom they gave Quark–much bigger than Moogie’s. I also seem to remember the size of that bosom decreases during the episode.
cheery_coffee ( @cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca ) 5•10 months agoThat’s possible, on the wiki it says there was inconsistency with how different people wanted to do it, so I think we ended up with the mashup of styles.
Melllvar ( @charonn0@startrek.website ) English4•10 months agoIt wasn’t the liquidator, it was the CEO of Slug-O-Cola.
cheery_coffee ( @cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca ) 4•10 months agoRight, it wasn’t Brunt, I thought he was another liquidator for some reason.
I did try to erase that episode from my brain, I guess it didn’t fully take.
SturgiesYrFase ( @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoI had completely wiped that from my memory…thanks…I guess…
NuPNuA ( @NuPNuA@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months agoI find it quite funny in places in an old school farce kind of way. Like a Carry on Film in the Trek universe. Move Along Home can get deleted before Profit and Lace any day.
JWBananas ( @JWBananas@startrek.website ) English25•10 months agoAlmost any scene in the decon chamber on the NX-01.
CCatMan ( @CCatMan@lemmy.one ) 7•10 months agoHaha, i have prepared you some gellllll put it on while I watch with my bats… Lol
Infynis ( @Infynis@midwest.social ) English25•10 months agoNeelix and Kes when Kes is essentially in heat. That episode was so gross
Right, Kes is like 4 years old then
mosiacmango ( @mosiacmango@lemm.ee ) 13•10 months agoMore like 2, actually. 4 would have been the normal time for her race, but some electrical storm nonsense kicked it off early for her temporarily.
I dont think that episode is that weird overall. They wanted to address the reproductive cycle of a very short lived race and also have a “what does it mean to be a parent” moral lesson.
“Hold hands with me to breed” is some pretty mild sex talk honestly, especially for the “go fast and have lizard sex” writers.
MaggiWuerze ( @MaggiWuerze@feddit.de ) 10•10 months agoAll Kess and/or Neelix episodes belong on that list. Can’t stand either character, although Kess is still way worse than Neelix
Infynis ( @Infynis@midwest.social ) English8•10 months agoThe hardest thing for me to come to terms with is that, while I hated Neelix while watching the show, I think if I’d actually been on Voyager, I would have really liked him. He’s super friendly, and just wants to help, and makes all these crazy foods that would be fun to try. (Kess stuff not withstanding)
MaggiWuerze ( @MaggiWuerze@feddit.de ) 2•10 months agoHe also gets progressively better through the show, just never near favorite territory
PowerCrazy ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 5•10 months agoI hear your anguish, I present to you Tuvix!
bad_alloc ( @bad_alloc@feddit.de ) English21•10 months agoStar Trek: Picard, when the Borg wake up and the Romulans just vacuum them out. In that moment the Cube should have automatically teleported them back inside. If the teleporters were down for some reason, the remaining Drones would just happily continue working in hard vacuum and proceed to assimilate the shit out of the Romulans. What happened was an uncalled for nerf of the Borg.
richieadler ( @richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ) English10•10 months agoThe whole idea of “let’s make Seven be a miniqueen for a second, without consequences for her psyche, and without letting her make sane choices like rescuing the XBs” was completely idiotic.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 8•10 months agoI mean, I feel like Star Trek plays it fast and loose with baddie strength a lot.
Followupquestion ( @Followupquestion@lemm.ee ) 9•10 months agoYou mean like the Klingon warbird that could fire torpedoes while cloaked and that tech just got hand waved away in all Star Trek after that?
Also, and maybe this is just me, but wouldn’t it be relatively easy to just “drop” torpedoes while cloaked and have them do a delayed launch thing? And nobody thought to cloak a torpedo, or at least give it some stealthy coatings? Complete amateur hour.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 4•10 months agoI guess you could assume that any substantial piece of matter will disrupt the cloaking field, but if you’re thinking about autonomous weapons there’s all kinds of other plot holes, too. It’s pretty rare anyone has to deal with drones or mines of any kind in Star Trek, even though you’d think it would be super convenient with mostly-unblockable communications over subspace.
Followupquestion ( @Followupquestion@lemm.ee ) 3•10 months agoI think they ran into the real problem with writer’s rooms in general, they suffer from a lack of knowledge in many areas. It’s why so many shows have “hammer noises” for Glocks, or the racking of a shotgun when people are about to kick in a door. They don’t know anything about weapons, and their ignorance is so complete they don’t even think to ask actual experts.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•10 months agoI think there’s a degree of “the audience loves it”, too. A realistic sword fight is rare in media because it’s not as fun to watch as twirls and beating multiple enemies at once.
Followupquestion ( @Followupquestion@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoI too watched Rey not get stabbed in the back.
JWBananas ( @JWBananas@startrek.website ) English2•10 months agoThere were cloaked mines in DS9 and in ENT. But, like the transporter, they are as burdensome to the writers’ room as they are useful.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•10 months agoYeah, at this point, with Star Trek I pretty much just treat the “science” like magic. It would be a tall order to have consistent rules with no exceptions over decades, I get that. I don’t think it’s too much to ask the characters to have consistent motivations and abilities, though.
JWBananas ( @JWBananas@startrek.website ) English2•10 months agoThat’s the thing about fiction. Unlike in reality, the characters have to be believable.
PowerCrazy ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoYes. But the idea is that the limitations of the technology enhance the story which is the whole point of Sci-fi that many people forget. The only requirement for technology (or magic) is that it has defined limits. torpedo’s have to be launched. The ship that could fire while cloaked was a plot point prototype, you don’t need to revisit it, or explain it beyond that.
socsa ( @socsa@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoNo, they didn’t figure out how to do this until Star Trek: The Expanse
Followupquestion ( @Followupquestion@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoStar Trek wishes it was as scientific as The Expanse, and I say that as a fan of both franchises.
currawong ( @currawong@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoST: Picard wasn’t good at all. Especially the last season. It felt like a badly written fanfic. Great cast but terrible writing overall.
NuPNuA ( @NuPNuA@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months agoBoth those first two series horribly mishandled the Borg to the point the third had to hang a lantern on it in dialogue and call it nonsense and do their own plot that actually capped off what was happening in TNG/Voyager.
Johannes Jacobs ( @johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl ) 17•10 months agoAny scene in Discovery where that Michael woman starts crying.
maegul ( @maegul@lemmy.ml ) English12•10 months agoAnd this is why the startrek.website instance has the reputation it does for over-zealous moderation … because maybe sometimes we collectively deserve it if some of us are going to behave like this.
Johannes Jacobs ( @johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl ) 1•10 months agoBehave like what exactly? Someone asked a question, someone else answered.
No need to get your pants all tangled up.
Kalash ( @theKalash@feddit.ch ) 14•10 months agoAll of Star Trek: Picard.
Tippon ( @Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English10•10 months agoYou mean you didn’t like the series where they made friends with the Borg, and set up their friend as Queen of the Borg, but the very next time they encountered the Borg, everyone was scared and knew they were the enemy, and they could only defeat them with the Power of Nostalgia?
amki ( @amki@feddit.de ) 3•10 months agoI mean I can compress any story you like into 3 sentences making it sound completely silly. Is there a point to make?
Tippon ( @Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English6•10 months agoYes. Picard season 3 was badly done.
The plot was weak, and it leaned way too heavily on the nostalgia factor to get views. It also ignored the developments with the Borg in season 2 just to have an excuse to bring up Locutus.
It could have been so much better, but they concentrated on ‘getting the band back together’ instead of an actual reason for them to get together.
Surely over the 30+ years of in universe time, the crew have served with other good officers who would have their backs, while being old enough to not be affected by the magic Borg mind control. This could have also given us new characters that were actually at risk of dying, rather than giving us a pretty much indestructible crew, excluding, of course, the single disposable crew member, and the token death to show ‘our’ Borg that she’s been accepted.
It was a poor season, propped up by childhood memories.
NuPNuA ( @NuPNuA@lemm.ee ) 3•10 months agoThe whole point of bringing back Picard to begin with was to play on classic fans nostalgia after the negative reaction to Dis in the early years. The first two series failed that and gave us loads of piss poor new characters that were largely hated. They did the right thing with S3. Have us some memberberries, capped off one of the hanging threads from the TNG era and rode off into the sunset
Tippon ( @Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•10 months agoI understand that, but I still think that it was done badly. There’s a big difference between nostalgia and throwing everything out to have a This Is Your Life type guest special.
amki ( @amki@feddit.de ) 3•10 months agoI see you are correct.
richieadler ( @richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ) English6•10 months agoI’d say most of S1 and S2 and half of S3.
So, basically, yeah.
criitz ( @criitz@reddthat.com ) 2•10 months agoSeason 3 was an awesome reunion show for TNG fans
Kalash ( @theKalash@feddit.ch ) 2•10 months agoIt was considerably less diarrhea inducding then the first 2 seasons. But far from awersome.
criitz ( @criitz@reddthat.com ) 1•10 months agoThey could have come out and sung WAP and it would still be awesome to see the crew back together.
Honytawk ( @Honytawk@lemmy.zip ) 13•10 months agoThe one where Dr Crusher has sex with a ghost
Bobby Turkalino ( @turkalino@lemmy.yachts ) 12•10 months agoWhenever Riker meets eyes with a female humanoid alien earlyish in an episode, you know exactly what the B plot is gonna be
Eufalconimorph ( @Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de ) 11•10 months agoTasha Yar dies due to the Exxon Valdez.
Melllvar ( @charonn0@startrek.website ) English9•10 months agoThe “Allamaraine” song scene from DS9’s Move Along Home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FM6Xfs2ZoY
In fact that whole episode.
riley0 ( @riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 15•10 months agoI just rewatched that one, and I disagree. It was uncomfortable at first, b/c it seemed so hoakey. The crew repeatedly hurt themselves trying to cross the room. Then the point was to observe the child closely. Dax was the one who finally got it. It was a commentary on observation/cognitive bias.
Ensign Rick ( @ensignrick@startrek.website ) English8•10 months agoI like that episode actually… Lol.
sndrtj ( @sndrtj@feddit.nl ) 8•10 months agoJaneway and Paris making lizard babies.
spauldo ( @spauldo@lemmy.ml ) English7•10 months agoWhen Spock fails to get laid because he’s a half-breed.
DeathStrandicoot ( @DeathStrandicoot@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoThe scene where Riker slops some eggs on a hot plate and Pulaski swoons over his technique.
TheHalc ( @TheHalc@sopuli.xyz ) 7•10 months agoIn a galaxy with replicators, who would actually still know how to cook eggs (other than Sisko’s dad)?
LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 5•10 months agoThat feels kind of like saying “in a galaxy with holodecks, who would still know how to paint?” Cooking is a skill and an art, and I’m sure there are plenty of people who do it casually in the future for the enjoyment of creating something with their own hands.
TheHalc ( @TheHalc@sopuli.xyz ) 6•10 months agoYou’re right, I was being a little flippant.
Still, it would certainly be far more niche. While being able to ride a horse was an essential life skill a little over a hundred years ago, you might get an impressed reaction if you were to tell someone that you ride these days.
Call me Lenny/Leni ( @shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee ) English5•10 months agoPeople often say the Evil Spock episode was memorable, but why? I always thought it was so tropey. It just doesn’t strike me as thought-provoking if you can sum up something with “a parallel universe decided to release an evil version of me with an evil beard and nobody else to come from a parallel universe and frame me aboard my ship”. That would be more in line with Futurama, and ironically they handled the concept better.
JWBananas ( @JWBananas@startrek.website ) English3•10 months agoI always thought it was so tropey. It just doesn’t strike me as thought-provoking if you can sum up something with “a parallel universe decided to release an evil version of me with an evil beard and nobody else to come from a parallel universe and frame me aboard my ship”.
My friend, where do you think the Beard of Evil trope came from?
That’s like saying Once More, With Feeling is tropey because it’s a Musical Episode.
Call me Lenny/Leni ( @shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee ) English1•10 months agoDo people not watch Star Trek for the scientific concepts? Evil twins from a parallel universe just don’t fit into that.
JWBananas ( @JWBananas@startrek.website ) English2•10 months agoNeither does Ba-by-GOD-do-DO-do-DO-do-DO
Call me Lenny/Leni ( @shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee ) English2•10 months agoTIL there’s a baby shark religion. That’s impressive.