And where are you from? And how old? Not “do you” but just if you know how.
I’m in the US, mid 30s and can (and do) drive a manual transmission.
DarkwinDuck ( @DarkwinDuck@feddit.de ) 80•10 months agoIn Germany nearly everyone can drive manual. Used to be that if you didn’t learn how to drive manual in driving school, you weren’t allowed to drive manual with your license.
DasRubberDuck ( @DasRubberDuck@feddit.de ) 12•10 months agoPrettty sure that’s still the case. I talked to a young person two weeks ago who said she’s not allowed to drive a manual transmission car.
DarkwinDuck ( @DarkwinDuck@feddit.de ) 2•10 months agoYes, but it used to be that you had to do the majority of lessons in a manual, now it’s reduced, you can get B197 with a few hours of manual. And then you can drive both.
koorool ( @koorool@feddit.de ) 3•10 months agoStill the case, got my B197 driving license last week in Bavaria. You have 10 lessons with manual as part of your education, then the rest + exam on automatic. B197 allows to drive both, B allows automatic only.
DogMuffins ( @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•10 months agoIt’s like that in Australia.
Powerbomb ( @Powerbomb@lemmy.ml ) 37•10 months ago31,Sweden
Yes, and I prefer a manual car to an automatic. It keeps me a lot more dialed in while driving.
ogeist ( @ogeist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 12•10 months ago35, living in Europe, I had to re-learn manual. I had only automatics in Latin America. It is certainly more fun and I feel I’m actually driving.
richieadler ( @richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ) English2•10 months agoWhere in Latin-America?
itsgroundhogdayagain ( @itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml ) 31•10 months agoI can, not well, but I can. damn hill starts.
guyrocket ( @guyrocket@kbin.social ) 3•10 months agoNot sure how common it is now but some cars had a “hill holder” feature that would hold the brake for you when starting on a hill. Makes that whole process much, much easier.
Hunter2 ( @Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de ) English20•10 months agoJust pull the parking brake and accelerate until you feel the car slightly raising and then drop the parking brake.
Eventually you get a feeling for it and drop the parking brake before it’s “fighting” the accelerator.
This might sound trivial to some, but I know several people that never use the parking brake in these situations and instead do a manic race with their feet and the car drops a couple meters back and they over accelerate to compensate.
guyrocket ( @guyrocket@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoYeah, I learned the parking brake method.
A couple meters, you say? Sounds like a great way to trash your transmission.
Hunter2 ( @Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de ) English1•10 months agoA couple meters, you say? Sounds like a great way to trash your transmission.
It drives (pun intended) me nuts, but they don’t listen to reason. And the worst of all, is that they got their license in a hilly town and say they weren’t taught that. While I learned in a flatter place and was taught this.
Neato ( @Neato@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoYes, this is how I do it. I also do this when reversing out of parking spaces. Because my car’s reverse requires pushing down on the stick and is close to 1st, I’ve saved myself from driving into polls a few times.
spam ( @spam@kbin.social ) 2•10 months agoThis is the way. Drove a tiny 4cyl manual in SF for way to long
AttackBunny ( @AttackBunny@kbin.social ) 3•10 months agoHands down one of the worst “feature” of new vehicles IMO. If you need help on a hill, either use the parking brake like everyone else, learn to drive better, or just drive an auto.
Longpork_afficianado ( @Longpork_afficianado@lemmy.nz ) 1•10 months agoOlder diesels had a handy feature for it too, in the way of a hand throttle.
BorgDrone ( @BorgDrone@lemmy.one ) 1•10 months agoWhen getting your driving license, you are supposed to know 3 so called ‘special manoeuvres’. Hill start, backwards turn and parallel parking. During your test you have to perform 2 of these (chosen by the examiner). Everyone always hopes that one of these two will be the hill start because it’s by far the easiest one.
JDubbleu ( @JDubbleu@programming.dev ) 29•10 months ago23, US. Yes, but I find them pointless for daily driver cars. Modern automatics are more fuel efficient and just make more sense because they’re much easier to operate and less annoying in stop and go traffic.
They’re great for off-roading and racing, but outside of those use cases automatics are just better.
coyotino [he/him] ( @theangriestbird@beehaw.org ) English2•10 months agohonestly i don’t understand what makes them better for racing. can the auto not be tuned differently to prioritize speed and acceleration over fuel efficiency?
TheWeirdestCunt ( @TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.ee ) English3•10 months agoAutomatic gearboxes can’t predict the road ahead, they can only react to the current RPM and speed.
Edit: just realised this posted on a completely different comment to the one I was replying to
chunkystyles ( @chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ) English2•10 months agoModern, high end race cars are automatics. Low end or lighter cars will be manual.
Pixel of Life ( @PixelOfLife@lemm.ee ) 5•10 months agoModern, high end race cars are automatics.
No, they’re sequential manuals*. Unless you’re talking about drag racing, where automatics are common.
*Edit: Or they can also be sequential semi-automatics if you want to be extra pedantic. But personally I’d classify a transmission based on whether the driver has to select the desired gear, or if the computer selects the appropriate gear without driver input, because that’s the thing that matters in the end.
coyotino [he/him] ( @theangriestbird@beehaw.org ) English1•10 months agoOkay that makes some sense to me.
Follow-up question: why don’t modern commuter cars use the paddle shifters? Why keep the cumbersome clutch-and-stick system?
Pixel of Life ( @PixelOfLife@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoIt’s cheap and reliable.
TonyTonyChopper ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) 2•10 months agothey’re loud as hell and don’t last long
Pixel of Life ( @PixelOfLife@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months agoIt’s not just about speed and acceleration. It’s also about control. Racing drivers face an infinite number of different conditions out on the track and it would be impossible to tune the transmission in such a way that it does exactly what the driver wants 100% of the time. And it really has to be perfect. 99.9% isn’t good enough because the other 0.1% can wreck the car if it does something unexpected while driving at the limit.
ColeSloth ( @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•10 months agoI mostly agree except I drive older vehicles out of warranty. Manuals last longer and are cheaper to fix so depending on what vehicle I’m buying I may look specifically for a manual if it’s a known “weak spot” for that particular vehicle.
riley0 ( @riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 18•10 months agoMy car has a manual transmission. I learned to drive on a manual transmission. I prefer it. When I drive a car with automatic transmission, I step on its nonexistent clutch.
Hyperreality ( @Hyperreality@kbin.social ) 17•10 months agoYes.
In Europe you basically have to be handicapped to not learn to drive manual. Most people get the manual driving license because it allows you to drive both, whereas the automatic one doesn’t.
Manual transmission was and often still is cheaper, often cheaper to repair, often more reliable, often uses less fuel, and in cheap and less powerful cars the combination is often better. Because there are so many manual cars here, including at rental places, it’s a no brainer to learn to drive manual.
This being said, that’s changing. Also, less and less young people are getting a driving license due to affordability and cars no longer being the status symbol they once were.
fiah ( @fiah@discuss.tchncs.de ) 5•10 months agoIn Europe you basically have to be handicapped to not learn to drive manual.
That’s changing though, I see many people taking their driving lessons in EVs, which in turn means they’ll only be able to drive automatics. I guess that won’t bother them too much as they’ll probably only want to drive EVs anyway, or else they would’ve chosen to take their lessons in a regular manual like most people
Hyperreality ( @Hyperreality@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoor else they would’ve chosen to take their lessons in a regular manual like most people
More likely that it’s often their parents’ car, I suspect. Depending on where you live, practising in your own car can save thousands in driving school fees.
But for the non-Europeans reading, the thing is that with the manual license you get to choose. You can drive both. Automatic license, you can never drive a manual.
Rental companies are almost certain to replace their cars with EVs sooner rather than later. But if you want to rent a bigger van, those’ll likely be ICE for a while longer. A van like that can easily do hundreds of thousands of kms. That’s a lot for a van that does the occasional move.
msage ( @msage@programming.dev ) 1•10 months agoNew automatics have lower fuel usage than manuals.
Manuals suck so hard, they gave me one when my car broke down, and my brother in christ there is almost no benefit to it.
I can choose my own gears on my dual-clutch automatic too, and it’s better in every way to the manual.
Valdair ( @Valdair@kbin.social ) 11•10 months agoThis thread is an amusing display of sample bias. Only people that want to respond yes and brag about it bothering to respond.
In reality only about 2/3rds of people in the US can drive stick and almost no one owns manual cars.
I’ve never driven a manual car. I’ve had people be like “You can’t drive manual?!” and then I would respond “So are you going to teach me?” The answer is always No, of course not, not in their car (assuming they even owned a manual, which none do anymore). My parents had manual cars but sold them 10+ years before having me.
I understand how a clutch works. It wouldn’t be difficult to learn. But what reason or motivation is there to learn when almost no cars are manual? They total something like 2% of new car sales. If you’re buying something like a 718 GT4 RS or a 911 GT3 RS for maximum driving engagement that’s great, but those cars are priced for the 1% of the 1%.
Even if you had a fun car, which I do, the drive to work is stop-and-go, roads are full, even the fun country backroads are filled with traffic on weekends, forests are burned down, gas is eye-watteringly expensive if you have a slightly performant vehicle. The time to have fun driving cars was 40 years ago.
ahornsirup ( @ahornsirup@artemis.camp ) 11•10 months ago31, Germany, I can’t drive at all. City kid.
Lemvi ( @Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org ) 9•10 months agoGermany, 25, yup
Disgusted_Tadpole ( @Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml ) 8•10 months agoOf course, 28, French. 99,99% of people here drive manual (or at least know how to).
chaorace ( @chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org ) English7•10 months agoYes, but only on motorcycles. That’s because there’s no such thing as an automatic motorcycle[1][2][3][4][5], so you have to learn manual if you want to ride one. Unfortunately this skill doesn’t transfer well to manual driving because on bikes you operate the clutch with your hand and the shift with your foot. I’m not terribly worried about that, though… I’ve literally never even been on the inside of a manual drive car before!
For context: I’m mid-20s from the American south.
B21 ( @B21@lemm.ee ) 7•10 months agoUAE, mid 20s and I know how to drive a manual but went with an automatic.
coffee ( @coffee@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoGerman, late 30s. Automatic cars are rather uncommon in Germany, we sure like our manuals. Not being able to push my car into high RPMs when needed to overtake or accelerate quickly takes the fun out of driving. I’d never switch to automatic as long as I still have both arms and legs. And yes I know kickdowns are a thing, but it really doesn’t compare.
m_r_butts ( @m_r_butts@kbin.social ) 6•10 months agoI’m 237 years old, a retired phosphate miner in Nauru. I learned to drive on manual transmissions but now refuse to drive anything not powered by a turbo-encabulator, with the exception of Starfleet shuttlecraft. I also hate questions that encourage people to give away personal or census data without considering that is what’s happening.
pancakesyrupyum ( @pancakesyrupyum@kbin.social ) 7•10 months agoYour stripper name is City Where You We’re Born + Can You Drive Stick Shift + The Last 4 Of Your SSN.
Damn they got me again
matey ( @matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English6•10 months agoYes, unless you want to still have an engine, then no.