•  GreenMario   ( @GreenMario@lemm.ee ) 
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    10 months ago

    The Earth First faction would totally gaslight everyone about the existence of the Borg.

    The Borg?! Ha! Yet another radical leftist Federation boogeyman! I’ll bet credits to navy beans that it’s just an excuse to expand Starfleet and take away your phasers! Wolf 359 was an inside job! But in case you do get infected with nanoprobes be sure to buy my Ivermectin^TM brand purity pills, only 4 bars of Gold Pressed Latinum!

  •  HelixDab2   ( @HelixDab2@lemm.ee ) 
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    1710 months ago

    I would absolutely line up to be assimilated. I’d be guaranteed a job that mattered, I’d always be with family and friends, I’d be part of a group that was always working towards a common goal, and I’d be happy; the borg that are disconnected from the collective are clearly deeply distressed by the experience. Plus, I’d be stronger and more capable as a borg than I can even imagine right now.

    As long as people are making the choice to join the collective, why is it anyone else’s business?

  • I mean… What’s wrong with assimilation other than it being forced on people?

    Edit: Seriously. I’d love to see real opinions on the idea of borg assimilation, assuming that it’s not forced. Obviously forcing it is evil, but what about the inherent nature of the process, what it does, and what happens to your mind?

    • Assimilated drones immediately lose all autonomy, and can never regain it without outside influence (which they will likely be compelled to resist). It’s functionally suicide, except that your body and mind continue to be used for whatever purpose by an entity you have effectively no control over.

      I understand joking about the benefits relative to the frequently unpleasant world we live in now, but I have serious concerns about anyone who would rather be a Borg drone than an ordinary 24th century Federation citizen.

      • I mostly question what the collective is like from the inside. The descriptions we get in the show tend to just say it’s a constant cocophony of voices. To me, that implies the individual minds still exist within it, they just all share a collective voice. But at the same time, they have the queen and they kind of imply the queen directs the hive mind or at least is a manager of some kind. I’m a bit of a singularist, so some aspects of the Borg are just fascinating to me. I am fine with giving up physical autonomy to exist as just a mind in a collection of other minds; but I would still want my voice to matter and help shape the collective.

        Perhaps not with the Borg, but I just don’t have fears toward the merging into a collective part. The body horror is scary and really just because it looks painful as hell to be assimilated.

        Or perhaps I’m just envious of Picard and Seven who got to experience something most don’t. Even if it was a bad experience… I really gravitate toward experiences that are aren’t real or impossible for me to have. I know I am of the time Picard lived an entire lifetime in his mind because of an alien probe. That would be dope.

        • The voice of an individual in the collective is roughly equivalent to a vote in a democracy: it’s real and it’s there, but there are so many other votes/minds involved that the chances of yours having any influence at are are negligible.

          I value democracy and community, but I’m not willing to put every single action I take,however small, up to a public vote.

  • Why did the borg go back in time to the 2060s? Why not go back in time 2023, when people are dealing with the cost of living and lack or access to basic essentials. The borg would enslave those they want to and prevent first contact.