Being poor and idolizing the rich.
Bigotry and prejudice. Not necessarily uneducated, but certainly poorly educated.
Coping mechanism for the poor, they can’t admit they’re at the bottom and so it feels good to put other people down for nonsense reasons
Or it can be a strategy. A white sharecropper is just as poor as a black sharecropper, but the white sharecropper has a higher place in society.
Being proud of not knowing things, and having no desire to change that.
Being proudly ignorant of everything is bad. I will respect people who know they don’t know things though, you can’t know everything about everything. It’s why people generally specialize in a field in an industry.
Thinking that someone without a formal education is somehow beneath you.
On the flipside, the belief that someone with a formal education is somehow beneath you or brainwashed for it.
Ten years ago I never would’ve believed that people like that exist, or that they think Science is evil for some reason
Not sure if you understood the assignment.
Not being able to entertain ideas. “What would the world be like with 100% renewable energy?” “Would basic healthcare for every person help our country?”
I tried to explain the 4 day work week to someone that gets paid by the hour. You make the same money but work 4 days a week instead of 5. Insisted he got paid less. Had to explain like a Bingo card with a Free Space, 1 day he is paid even if he stays home.
I think it’s good to note that while some of this is a failure to develop critical thinking, failure to entertain hypotheticals is OFTEN a trait for people with differing cognition. So don’t assume they’re poorly educated just from this, take it as a sign that the person thinks differently.
I’ve met and am friends with people who struggle with hypotheticals and education isn’t the problem, just how their brain works.
Because he’s an hourly worker he’s in the hourly mindset. You’d have to say your hourly rate would go up but only if you worked 32 hr/wk.
Not trusting in science.
Edit: Since there are many comments, I would like to clarify my statement. I meant that you should rather trust scientists, that the earth is round / that there is a human-made climate change, etc. and not listen to some random internet guy, that claims these things are false although he has made no scientific tests or he has no scientific background. I know that there are paradigm shifts in science and sometimes old ideas are proven to be wrong. But those shifts happen through other scientific experiments/thoughts. As long as > 99 % of all scientists think that something is true, you should rather trust them then any conspiracy theorist…
That’s unironically the point. Science should not be blindly trusted.
i mean i get the impulse, but if we were to blindly trust any sort of knowledge system, science is the one to trust, right? like, any downsides of trusting scientific consensus are necessarily larger when trusting information sources that aren’t scientific, and if you follow through with trusting science blindly, you might ignorantly begin to believe that empirical testing and intellectual honesty is necessary for determining the truth of your beliefs!
I would think it’s more about knowing how to trust it. See some news article about “This study said X”, don’t take it as fact. See a study that has been done numerous times by different groups that corroborate a result and you can have a much higher degree of trust in it. There is a reason the scientific method is a continuous circle, it requires a feedback loop of verifying results and reproducibility. The current issue is clickbait headlines getting the attention, people see it’s “Science” and blindly trust it and it becomes a religion like any other.
Trust in the process of Science, not its insitutions.
unfortunately my dad who has a diploma in engineering and is working in that field for probably 30y now is still prone to it.
Whoever spread those conspiracies should die a slow and painful death to experience a fraction of what they brought on to a lot of families and friends.
The irony!
Trust what? Many scientists will quite justifiably have completely opposing views (do vaccines cause autism for example).
How…
Scientists don’t have opposing views on thats specific thing*. It’s an example used right up there with thinking the earth is flat.
One completely discredited study linked the combined MMR vaccine to a new, made up gastrointestinal disorder. That disorder was supposedly linked to autism. The guy who ran the study had financial ties to a company that manufactured a measles vaccine separate from MMR. He had a financial motive. He paid children for blood samples at his kid’s party and bragged about it. He’s a monster responsible for every death caused by the measles since his evil, fake, completely made up study came out.
You want to know what makes a person seem ignorant? Being anti-vax or buying into the abject nonsense that ASD is caused by vaccines.
People who litter. Throw their rubbish out the window of the car. Or who throw rubbish in public, like into drains or sidewalks.
It’s in the mentality, and I say the lack of education is the reason for it.
It’s sad to see the people of my country do this, and to see it with your own eyes.
I think it’s more narcissism than education. People who are educated can still not care about the environment and preserving public spaces.
Hmm, I can see what you mean. “I just don’t care”
“That’s why cleaners exist right?” “We are giving the cleaners something to do” “This is not my public space”
The sort of thing people would say when you ask why do they do this.
I’ve seen all sorts of people. People who throw rubbish out from their Mercedes sedan. People who throw their plastic containers onto the sidewalk from the motorbike while waiting for the green light.
Funny true story. A colleague of mine was having a smoke with a Japanese guy who was visiting our country on a business trip.
My colleague threw the cigarette butt onto the floor after finishing. The Japanese guy went to pick up the cigarette butt that my colleague threw on the ground, and threw it into the dustbin nearby. My colleague never felt so embarrassed seeing him do that.
That’s why I think it’s education and upbringing.
I see this in a lot of places I do work:
Toolboxes covered in union stickers, AND Trump stickers…
Racists benefit from worker’s rights too.
Not when they vote for parties that fight against workers’ rights
Priorities, right?
A toolbox generally belongs to one person. I see it on people’s lockers too.
Biden is at least nominally pro-union (he isn’t really pro-union, but nominally.) Trump is overtly anti-union.
Since we are rating if a person is racist or not based on the actions/words of the person they voted for, isn’t everyone who voted for Biden racist as well?
People who voted for Biden, yes. Establishment liberals are almost unanimously racist. However, most of Biden’s votes were actually votes against the overt, unapologetic racist, rapist, and pedophile on the other side.
Maybe it’s a sticker war? Unions vs Trump?
Parents feeding their baby cola in bottles and smoking while pregnant are two things that usually cause me to make assumptions
Smoking in general. An expensive habit of self-harm for short term “feels good.”
And to get rid of the craving for a bit. I say this while smoking a fag (glad I can say this without risk of admins banning me). I should probably quit l.
Being proud of not owning books
Or being confident about disliking reading in general, whether be it fiction or scientific literature.
Hey, if you’re not proud of not owning a copy of mein kempf that’s on you buddy.
It’s “Kampf” … I have tried to read a few pages… It’s unreadable drivel.
Fun fact: The book wasn’t available in Germany for decades, because upon Hitler’s suicide the copyright fell to the State of Bavaria. That recently expired and now you can find some heavily annotated versions.
I prefer Mein Bamf, Nightcrawler’s treatise on teleportation.
What about if they frequent the library instead? :)
Being a baby. What do they even know?
I have literally never met a more uneducated cohort. Absolutely shameful.
taking Ayn Rand’s work seriously. five seconds of critical thought and her entire philosophy comes crashing down
One thing that few people seem to accept when saying that they believe in Ayn Rand’s philosophy is that you are supposed to pay people what they are worth, not what you can negotiate with them.
For instance, in Atlas Shrugged, it is made explicit that Rearden pays his mill workers far above typical salaries because it is worth it to him to have the best staff working in his mills. Rearden is also the kind of person who isn’t going to make racist or sexist jokes because he wants the best person regardless of sex or color.
What Objectivist is that moral?
That’s actually the root of all social philosophies: they require decent people.
No matter which system you take, capitalism, communism, anarchism, monarchy, democracy, etc. they all would work perfectly fine, if people wouldn’t be stupid, selfish and about 1% downright psychopaths. And I’m not even talking about real crimes. In your example it would be perfectly legal, to pay the workers the absolute minimum possible, but it would be a dick move.
At the end of the day, a system always has to answer the question: How do you reign in assholes? That’s it. Designing a system based on Jesuses is trivial.
It’s not enough to reign in assholes, the system has to be designed in such a way that carriers of “dark triad” traits (i.e. the usual bad faith actors in a system) are still incentivized to contribute to or improve society without gradually dismantling it to increase their wealth/power/status. That’s a hard problem to solve.
That’s pretty much what I meant, or at least an aspect of it.
“Asshole” is an umbrella term for me that means every anti-social behavior or more general, behavior against the spirit (not the text!) of whatever ideology you’re implementing.
Whether your system fails because one “dark” person can manipulate 100s to do bad things for him or 100s of persons do small bad things every day doesn’t really matter at the end - the system failed.
So you have to find a way to reign this behavior in. Psychopaths react similar to every other person, just way more extreme.
I think capitalism is the outlier there. Some atleast expect knobheads but the free hand of the market or something is supposed to take them out of business.
But it doesn’t seem to expect “knobheads” manipulating the hand.
In your example it would be perfectly legal, to pay the workers the absolute minimum possible, but it would be a dick move.
How does that differ from the current way things are done? (especially in the US)
Largely it doesn’t. There are some boundaries, like minimum wages and maximum working hours, etc. But according to the hypercapitalists, even those minimums are already undue influence by the government.
Being a republican. Sure there are some educated grifters who decide to label themselves as republican, but your average republican voter is a mouth-breathing fucking idiot.
Being a
republicanfirst-party voter. Sure there are some educated grifters who decide to label themselves as republican or democrat, but your averagerepublicanfirst-party voter isa mouth-breathing fucking idiot.terribly misinformed.FTFY
Sorry tard boy, both sides aren’t the same.
Never said they were. But they are both inescapably corrupt any beholden to their corporate masters. Democrats are just better at pretending to care about social issues.
A vote for either party is a vote against progress.
I don’t think evetybody, i think some rich white egoistic man might also be republican, but besides that, probably yes.
The scary thing is that they actually aren’t. YES, some absolutely are mind-numbingly stupid. But, as someone who grew up in a conservative area, there are incredibly smart people who end up falling for the bullshit.
You have to understand these people have grown up with a steady diet of conservative talk radio (Rush Limbaugh and other AM idiots) and Fox News. And lately it’s been amplified by social media echo chambers and weaponized by advertising tech.
You can see people with doctorates, law degrees, masters degrees, etc just shut their brains off when it comes to politics. Its wild to watch. If you start asking them questions about things and really talking to them about things like universal healthcare (you can’t call it that obviously…it causes a pavlovian response and their brain shuts off) they’ll actually agree with most of it.
Pick your ‘hot button issue’ and figure out a way to talk about it indirectly, non-confrontationally sort of with Socratic method of just asking them questions to understand their position, and they’ll almost always be way more reasonable or “liberal” than they’d ever admit otherwise.
Its interesting to watch them have these mini epiphanies then REALIZE what they are saying, then quickly change topics or 180 back with some hand-wavy “well either way I am not about Obama care or anything like it!”.
You might be tempted to say “well, then that just proves they are dumb”. I think its being brainwashed almost in a cult-like fashion and deprogramming takes time. It’s like growing up religious–even when you decide it isn’t for you. It takes time and intentional effort to get rid of the lifetime of brainwashing.
They think opinions are facts.
Or the other way around.
Yeah, I hate it when people don’t realize that only my opinions are facts.
- BrooklynMan ( @BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml ) English39•1 year ago
religion and the belief in the supernatural/paranormal. also the belief in conspiracy theories.
conspiracy theories i agree with, but religion? organized religion, definitely. joining a religion with a hierarchy signals that you want someone else to give you all the answers, which is very much a mark of poor education. but religious beliefs are not an automatic marker of poor education, as long as they’re sincerely held, don’t supersede science, and are frequently revisited and revised based on personal experience and knowledge. even basic, broad frameworks like animism or some parts of Buddhism can help you make sense of the world when science can’t help you
- BrooklynMan ( @BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml ) English7•1 year ago
When science has not yet provided an answer, the solution is to keep searching. The answer is not, “oh, God, must’ve done it!” Beliefs, regardless of how sincerely held, are not knowledge, but merely how one may wish things to be. Wishes are not truths.