Prominent “free-speech absolutist” threatens to sue Jewish anti-hate group because it engaged in free speech he didn’t like.
"Elon Musk has threatened to sue the Anti-Defamation League after accusing the civil rights group that campaigns against antisemitism and bigotry of trying to “kill” his X social media platform.
“The owner of X, formerly known as Twitter, said the ADL was trying to shut down his company by ‘falsely accusing it and me of being antisemitic’.”
If your list of enemies includes the ADL, then there’s a more-than-reasonable chance that you’re an anti-semite.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/05/elon-musk-sue-adl-x-twitter
- The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English115•1 year ago
So lemme get this straight. Elon Musk is accusing the Anti Defamation League of Defamation, not because their accusation that hate speech has a platform on twitter is false, since be knows exactly who let the hate speakers onto the platform as the “free speech absolutist”, but because they pointed it out?
And then he jumps to “they’re calling me an antisemite” which feels like hanging yourself by your own rope by jumping to conclusions.
Yeah dude. Gotta tell ya. If the ADL, ACLU, or Southern Poverty Law Firm say you suck, I’m going to side with them
Edit: spelling mistakes
- Landrin201 ( @Landrin201@lemmy.ml ) English52•1 year ago
The thing is this shit works for right wingers. They genuinely believe that the ADL calling someone an antisemite, or even suggesting they might be, is the same as the government kicking your door down and murdering you because you used “free speech”
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English31•1 year ago
If there’s one characteristic I’ve found to be widespread among right wingers, it’s black-and-white thinking. They don’t do “sometimes” or “partially” or “60%”. They just do “is” and “is not”. Vaccines either work or they don’t. Immigration is either bad or it’s good. Climate change is either 100% there today or it’s not happening, and if not every climate phenomenon is humans’ doing then none of it is humanity’s fault. Either every government regulation and law is good or government is simply bad. Either everyone gets guns or no one does. They apply this same black-and-white thinking to free speech.
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 7•1 year ago
“Only a sith deals in absolutes.”
Obi Wan’s not a bad guy, but it’s important to note the irony of such a statement.
- X3I ( @x3i@lemmy.x3i.tech ) 5•1 year ago
While I see where you are coming from, I don’t think this is a pattern of thinking that applies only (or primarily) to right wingers but rather to political radicals of all sorts. We see similar bullshit coming from the far left with “all straight white males are oppressors” and similar statements. Might also be a result of social media echo chambers, who knows…
- Ganbat ( @Ganbat@lemmyonline.com ) English6•1 year ago
It definitely happens with extremists on both sides, but I think it’s much more common on the right. Like, I encounter it on streets all the time from the right. I recently had a “climate change doesn’t exist because a day was cool last week” conversation with someone on the fourth-straight record high day in a row.
- HerrLewakaas ( @HerrLewakaas@feddit.de ) 6•1 year ago
Might also be because there are more radical right wingers than left wingers where you live
- phillaholic ( @phillaholic@lemm.ee ) 20•1 year ago
It’s long past the time to stop caring what they think. They’ll make themselves the victim no matter what, there’s no reasoning with them.
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) English8•1 year ago
You didn’t find all the spelling mistakes…
- The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English9•1 year ago
The curse of exclusively using mobile. The message still gets through
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
That was rather petty of me. Need to get rid of old reddit habits 😒
- katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 44•1 year ago
Gee I wonder where they would have gotten the idea that the owner of the company that allowed a promoted post featuring the 14 words to be run on their platform would be anti semitic?
- curiosityLynx ( @curiosityLynx@beehaw.org ) 12•1 year ago
I quoted your comment to ChatGPT 3.5 and asked what you were referring to with “the 14 words”. I’ve never seen it take so long to answer, and when it finally did, it was like watching someone else write in a shared Google doc, including watching words getting replaced. Maybe my question triggered a reply by an actual human?
- Dr Cog ( @Dr_Cog@mander.xyz ) 11•1 year ago
For the love of… stop using generative AI to give you answers to questions! If it doesn’t have an answer it just makes it up completely.
It took long because you’re on the free tier and you were rate limited. The idea that a human is writing your answer is so laughably absurd I genuinely don’t know if you’re serious.
- abhibeckert ( @abhibeckert@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Chat GPT does know the answer to this particular question, and provides a very good answer. Why stop using something that works so well?
- Dr Cog ( @Dr_Cog@mander.xyz ) 1•1 year ago
I assume you looked up if it was correct to be able to say that does know the answer. In that case, why did you bother with ChatGPT?
Never take anything generative AI produces as factual unless you check it. It is not designed to produce factual information and is very often wrong and confidently incorrect.
- dangrousperson ( @dangrousperson@feddit.de ) 3•1 year ago
Since you also didn’t answer what it was and I also didn’t know.
- abhibeckert ( @abhibeckert@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Nah - sometimes you just get a server that’s overloaded and slow. Hit stop, then regenerate, it’ll be fast.
- Can-Utility ( @Can_Utility@beehaw.org ) English13•1 year ago
If your list of enemies includes the ADL, then there’s a more-than-reasonable chance that you’re an anti-semite.
Likewise if your loudest defenders are, themselves, loud and proud anti-semites.
- TJmCAwesome ( @TJmCAwesome@feddit.nu ) 11•1 year ago
Oh man, he even points out that it’s ironic, but doesn’t quite understand why. I’d argue it isn’t ironic, since one should expect him to be a gigantic hypocrite.
- Uniquitous ( @Uniquitous@lemmy.one ) English5•1 year ago
Why hasn’t James Bond snuffed this fool yet?
- WingedObsidian ( @WingedObsidian@feddit.ch ) 3•1 year ago
NIMBY….
- wagoner ( @wagoner@infosec.pub ) 2•1 year ago
Ok, so is musk a natural born citizen of the US?