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Wilshire ( Wilshire@lemm.ee )  to Ukraine@sopuli.xyz ·
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Musk Secretly Used Starlink to Foil Ukrainian Drone Attack on Russian Ships

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Musk Secretly Used Starlink to Foil Ukrainian Drone Attack on Russian Ships

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Wilshire ( Wilshire@lemm.ee )  to Ukraine@sopuli.xyz ·
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Musk Secretly Used Starlink to Foil Ukrainian Drone Attack on Russian Ships: Report
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The billlionaire allegedly feared the strike on Crimea could trigger nuclear war.

Original source: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

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  • Heresy_generator ( Heresy_generator@kbin.social ) 
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    “How am I in this war?” Musk asks Isaacson. “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”

    Musk, transparent as ever, makes sure to tell his biographer that it’s about peace, man, and has nothing to do with his love of authoritarian regimes.

    • Sinnz ( Sinnz@feddit.de ) 
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      Nothing more peaceful than supporting an authoritarian war criminal 🥰

    • reverendsteveii ( reverendsteveii@beehaw.org ) 
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      Once the killers have done all the killing they want, peace becomes paramount. Once they’ve stolen everything they can steal, then theft becomes a crime. A man with a gun kicks in your door, starts eating the food from your fridge and fucks your wife. He’s doing good peaceful things and if you resist you’re a warmonger.

    • Uniquitous ( Uniquitous@lemmy.one ) 
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      Maybe if he had any actual knowledge instead of just buying shit and slapping his name on it, he would know that the Internet was originally DARPAnet and was designed for expressly military purposes prior to being co-opted by capitalists.

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    • Microw ( Microw@lemm.ee ) 
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      To be fair the Ukrainian army knew that they were not supposed to use Starlink for military purposes. The company entered into a contract with the Ukranian government particularily for civilian use.

      But yeah, I still agree with you.

  • lolcatnip ( lolcatnip@reddthat.com ) 
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    Why are enemies of the United States allowed to own national security infrastructure?

    • owlinsight ( owlinsight@lemm.ee ) 
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      They are allowed to be president and run for re-election too so I wouldn’t hold my breath

      • gjoel ( gjoel@lemmy.ml ) 
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        I don’t think Musk qualifies, being South African though.

        • Pelicanen ( Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          They were talking about Trump.

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    • ChillhopBear ( StantonVitales@beehaw.org ) 
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      Net Neutrality is a dead concept and has been for years, there’s no walking it back

  • Grant_M ( Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Arrest this treasonous scumbag. Slava Ukraini!

    • AphoticDev ( AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      As much as I despise Musk for being a total piece of shit, this isn’t treason. Technically, we aren’t even allies with Ukraine. The argument could certainly be made that this works against the interests of the United States, but that alone isn’t treason because it isn’t a crime for citizens to oppose the US, especially when it’s private property the US is being lent. Because at that time, the US hadn’t signed a contract with Musk yet.

      If he did this again, then it would be a breach of contract, but still wouldn’t be treason. People being charged with treason is very rare, because it’s a such a high bar to meet.

      • Grant_M ( Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) 
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        This guy aided the Kremlin. He’s helping russians in their genocide of Ukrainian children. Fuck that pile of shit and lock him up.

        • AphoticDev ( AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          I agree. I’m just saying, he’s not guilty of treason.

          • Grant_M ( Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) 
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            I never claimed he was. But he’s guilty of being an ally of russia

            • rbesfe ( rbesfe@lemmy.ca ) 
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              arrest this treasonous scumbag

              You literally just did

              • Grant_M ( Grant_M@lemmy.ca ) 
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                I accused him of being treasonous – which he ABSOLUTELY IS. End of discussion.

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        This still makes him an enemy of Ukraine though

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    Arrest when?

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    Seriously the US needs to take Starlink away from Musk. Its a national security issue at this point.

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    • medgremlin ( medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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      I agree with this idea quite vehemently. Honestly, all ISPs should be seized as public utilities and all necessary utilities should be state or locally run with federal oversight. That includes water, power, gas, garbage/recycling, internet, and potentially even cell phone service. There could be room to argue for premium versions being available should people want to pay for them, but regular access to water, power, high speed internet, and cell connectivity are basic necessities these days. For example, the government run version will get you up to 500mbps reliably, but you have the option to pay a private company for fiber gigabit if you really want to.

  • skillissuer ( skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    here you have a better link https://web.archive.org/web/20230907125906/https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

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    If you own a new Tesla purchased since he took over Twitter, I suspect you may start having some increased tire and paint bills. I could see it becoming a trend; feels like the kind of thing kids could get into.

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      Fuck that. We don’t need some Tesla version of that Kia challenge shit. I happen to drive a Tesla that I bought when Elon was still cool. I would never buy another thing from him (for a variety of reasons, many of them related to the car), but I’m still stuck with what I have because it’s a bad financial decision for me to change the car now. He already has my money and it pisses me off every day. The last thing I need is some anarchist, vigilante twat slashing my tires to “teach me a lesson”. Go fuck up Elon’s shit instead of taking it out on people who just might feel the same way about him as you do.

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        Elon’s shit is untouchable to the kids. New Teslas are not.

        You use his charging network?

        • Joker ( Joker@kbin.social ) 
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          So maybe don’t do it at all instead of taking it out on people who didn’t do anything wrong?

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            I’m not promoting it. Just wonder if Musk is getting dangerously close to becoming a generational bête noire, and his enablers with him.

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    Holy shit! I’m guessing fighting (even in an EW capacity) for a US adversary is actually a criminal offence, or something similar.

    Thanks for the original source, OP. It’s hard to trust just a headline these days.

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    As an oligarch, he stands with the other Russian oligarch who need and benefit from this war. If the rouble is at an historical low, the ones who have money in other currencies have an historical purchasing power in Russia…

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    Man the old geezers really think they still have absolute control over everything and don’t realize the ultra wealthy they have enabled are getting and have been operating far beyond the control of the western governments.

    God the fucking narcissism of those in charge to think that they still rule with perfect wisdom. I’m waiting for when these companies that the US built leave and take up residence with new hot authoritarian countries and leave misery poverty in their wake.

    Singular rich people should not have this much say.

  • Uniquitous ( Uniquitous@lemmy.one ) 
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    Sure would be a shame if Starlink got nationalized.

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      Talk about fixing the rural internet problem. That would be amazing.

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