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cross-posted from: https://ls.buckodr.ink/post/332420
asyncrosaurus ( @asyncrosaurus@programming.dev ) 49•10 months agoWeb & mobile development took a wrong tern 10 million miles back, and no one wants to turn the car around and admit it.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 32•10 months agoWhat’s possible for web apps today is insane considering where it started. I remember when AJAX was a brand new technology, and now you can do videoconferences with screenshare right in a web browser.
I think the push toward apps is because of influence from mobile. Everyone wants their own app, just like everyone wanted a dot com in the 90s. Hopefully we’ll stabilize around browsers and open standards.
ono ( @ono@lemmy.ca ) English29•10 months agoHopefully we’ll stabilize around browsers and open standards.
I would love this, but I think it will require major privacy reform. The push toward apps comes overwhelmingly from a single source: surveillance capitalism.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoNot just privacy reform, but also mandated interoperability between services
Bipta ( @Bipta@kbin.social ) 19•10 months agoIt took a wrong turn in the 90s. There’s been no real feasible way to fix it without breaking the web for many decades now. Some things are just forever despite their problems, like QWERTY.
KindaABigDyl ( @KindaABigDyl@programming.dev ) 10•10 months agoSo let’s break the dang web
Fal ( @Fal@yiffit.net ) English9•10 months agoI’m working on a little project to try this out.
asyncrosaurus ( @asyncrosaurus@programming.dev ) 4•10 months agoYes, I couldn’t recommend htmx highly enough.
Bipta ( @Bipta@kbin.social ) 27•10 months agoThis meme is really only true for things like Slack where the app is just the webpage in an app, and even then it’s not quite true because Electron is a lot heavier than a webpage because it has to now run the webpage and the app - which I think is terrible.
But then also, Electron enables actual apps to be developed using web standards - which I think is great.
TLDR: Use Electron to make apps, not glorified webpages.
habanhero ( @habanhero@lemmy.ca ) 10•10 months ago??
Slack IS an app.
Chadus_Maximus ( @Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee ) 3•10 months ago??
Slack IS a webpage.
habanhero ( @habanhero@lemmy.ca ) 3•10 months agoCalling Slack a webpage is like calling an office building a room.
Slack is just as much a complex app as anything else even if it’s built on web tech and standards.
Ethan ( @firelizzard@programming.dev ) English4•10 months agoThe point is that Slack does not take advantage of Electron at all. It’s no better than running it in a browser.
habanhero ( @habanhero@lemmy.ca ) 1•10 months agoFor Slack it does. Building an app via Electron means it’s cross-platform by default, so Slack doesn’t need to invest in separate platform teams to solve the same problem (Windows, macOS, Linux).
Electron also has better support for things like native notifications, video and voice calls, offline capabilities, and to other native APIs etc that are either unsupported or spottily supported via the browser.
pkill ( @pkill@programming.dev ) 1•10 months agoFlutter?
habanhero ( @habanhero@lemmy.ca ) 1•10 months agoWhat about Flutter?
space ( @space@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 7•10 months agoMain difference is the electron app has access to more things on your computer, like files, sensors, microphone, camera etc.
TigrisMorte ( @TigrisMorte@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoIt isn’t to save RAM the you should use the website over the app for.
QuazarOmega ( @QuazarOmega@lemy.lol ) 3•10 months agoI think they’re referring to the fact that often installed apps will be able to mine more of your data
Zeragamba ( @Zeragamba@lemmy.ca ) 1•10 months agothat sounds like just plain old paranoia and fear mongering
QuazarOmega ( @QuazarOmega@lemy.lol ) 1•10 months agoI wish it were… But well, I guess I’ve been exposed to far too many privacy news articles, so I’m now paranoid too (with good reason)
fu ( @fu@libranet.de ) 1•10 months ago@Zeragamba @QuazarOmega just because something is paranoia doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Whenever I turn on the DuckDuckGo “VPN” to stop tracking by third party apps, I’m amazed at how many request are happening from apps I hardly use and many I don’t expect (though I should know that something can still be open source Free Software and that the open code contains surveillance capitalsm tracking in order to fund the project)
hblaub ( @hblaub@programming.dev ) 4•10 months agoPlease don’t eat my RAM. I need it for mining MemoryCoin ™.
explodicle ( @explodicle@local106.com ) English1•10 months ago(Not FUD, legit curious)
Is there any way to make RAM production significantly greener than it is today?
Kyoyeou (Ki jəʊ juː) ( @Kyoyeou@slrpnk.net ) 3•10 months agoRecently downloaded the KFC app. Strangely the app needs to ask me if I accept cookies, hmmmmmmmmmm
I thought KFC sold chicken 🤔
onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English3•10 months agoGot myself a laptop and PC with 64GB of RAM. I’ll never look back. 16GB on a dev machine just seem like the bare minimum nowadays.