Question came about from watching this random standup yt video
The Government Is Lying to You - Ron Funches
Fizz ( @Fizz@lemmy.nz ) 6•10 months agoThat majority of the opinions online are created and manipulated by special interest groups. All mainstream sites are astroturfed to steer discussion.
drlecompte ( @drlecompte@discuss.tchncs.de ) 4•10 months agoMark Felton did a 6 episode series on YT on how the alleged burnt bodies of Hitler and Eva Braun found by the soviets, are actually plants.
Not that Hitler survived the war or anything, they were just buried elsewhere nearby, probably in a civilian mass grave, to prevent the soviets from parading the real bodies around.
kittenspronkles ( @kittenspronkles@lemmy.ml ) English3•10 months agoI believe the Disney Channel with their over serialization of minors is responsible for a lot of pedophilia that is going on.
Pantherina ( @Pantherina@feddit.de ) 2•10 months agoThat Covid was made.
I dont really think its true, but the richest get richer with every catastrophe, people actually believe “everything just gets more expensive” (which is absolute bullshit and rich people just use it to make more profits). Also, genetically modifying some viruses should be totally possible today.
bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 2•10 months agoI don’t buy it because scientists have been saying for more than a decade that the “wet market” culture in China was a “ticking time bomb” for something like COVID to appear.
Pantherina ( @Pantherina@feddit.de ) 1•10 months agoYes that too makes sense. If people stopped eating animals, damn… the reserve antibiotics we could save for like… actually emergencies
bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 2•10 months agoThat’s not the reasoning. The reasoning is that the “Wet Markets” involve a lot of live mammals being kept in close proximity, creating a breeding ground for really nasty viruses to make the interspecies jump to humans.
Pantherina ( @Pantherina@feddit.de ) 1•10 months agoYes, and to circumvent this naturally occuring germ breeding pool, in countries like Germany animals get pumped up with antibiotics, even the reserve ones, so that this doesnt happen here even though its just as bad.
Yeah, eeeeeverything fine here.
bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 0•10 months agoAntibiotics are irrelevant to COVID. It’s a virus, not a bacteria.
Pantherina ( @Pantherina@feddit.de ) 1•10 months agoTrue, is there anything animals get to stop spreading viruses? Never heard of that
bionicjoey ( @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ) 1•10 months agoNot keeping them in cramped filthy conditions like those that exist in Chinese meat markets. Particularly small mammals which are genetically similar enough to humans for a virus to jump species. There’s a reason all the nastiest plagues have come from people trying to eat bats and monkeys.
𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 ( @sxan@midwest.social ) 1•10 months agoThis, I could believe. As an escaped bioweapons project (less likely), or as a flu vaccine research project gone wrong (most likely). I don’t believe it, per se - it doesn’t satisfy Occam’s Razor - but it’s within the realm of not-so-insane.
deft ( @deft@ttrpg.network ) 1•10 months agoI personally think it ain’t even that big but literally same. They were just studying viruses for all potential, bioweapons to vaccine research. Covid itself wasn’t made for any particular reason it was just the one that got leaked from the lab.
China’s biggest fault was not realizing at some point on an infinite timeline there will absolutely be a leak, how do we respond? And they lied about the initial leak and infection.
Other than that, playing with viruses what else did we expect? I don’t think any malice was attached to the leak, just as you said, stupidity and probably some arrogance.
mayonaise_met ( @mayonaise_met@feddit.nl ) 1•10 months agoEpidemics and plagues have been part of life forever. It’s not like we had never seen anything like this before that warrants exploring alternative explanations. We’ve never been more connected. This was predicted and it will happen again.
Without a solid case supported by evidence we have to assume the simpler explanation.
Phantom_Engineer ( @Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoCIA blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•10 months agoThat’s tricky, because “conspiracy theory” implies a level of deception that makes falsifiability of anything difficult. Like, if somebody starts chatting me up on the street and I wonder if I’m going to get scammed or jumped, that’s a theory about a conspiracy, but it’s not a conspiracy theory because it only involves a few people and I still can be sure what’s up and what’s down.
Epstein being murdered gets called a conspiracy theory, but if a couple of guards, a warden and a single wealthy instigator were the only participants, and they were really sloppy covering it up, is that really so implausible?
I think you are overthinking it.
Could have been anything:
parents lying about santa, maybe
moon landing, nasa
Anything is good, hahahah
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•10 months agoThe Epstein thing was my answer to the spirit of the question, if that wasn’t clear. I just added some analysis, since I don’t believe actual conspiracy theories by definition, on epistemological grounds.
BestBouclettes ( @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ) 2•10 months agoThe 9/11 was an inside job stuff, but only the part where part of the US government knew that something was going to happen and let it happen. That gave them the opportunity to set up stuff like the Patriot Act and gave them a (wonky) reason to invade the middle east.
mayonaise_met ( @mayonaise_met@feddit.nl ) 2•10 months agoYeah, what was it? By the end of the day Rumpsfeld and Cheney had convinced Bush to go after Sadam Hussein and people who knew the ME were confused about that.
I don’t buy for a second that “they let it happen” though. The conspiracy is that they didn’t waste a good crisis.
BestBouclettes ( @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ) 1•10 months agoYeah maybe it’s some sort of confirmation bias from me, it’s my take on the conspiracy. But given all the shady shit the US government has done, I wouldn’t be surprised if they knew and let it happen. As you said they absolutely took advantage of the crisis.
4am ( @4am@lemm.ee ) English0•10 months agoYeah this is as far as I’ll take that one as well, except I’ll do one further. All that “controlled demolition” stuff is to distract rubes and make them sound like crackpots so no one takes the “hey we knew and did nothing” take seriously from anyone.
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org) ( @user224@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•10 months agoLiving in emulation. I believe calling it simulation wouldn’t be correct, we’d be more like a video game. If there was somehow a computer powerful enough to actually emulate real world, we wouldn’t be able to tell if we’re in it. And we’d still be real regardless, just on a computer.
manned_meatball ( @manned_meatball@lemmy.ml ) English1•10 months agoWithout knowing the “higher” reality, I’d still call it a simulation. An emulator is capable of replacing the “real” system it’s emulating. Maybe that’s your view on the topic, but I find it more likely the higher reality is more complex than ours because it contains ours. Therefore our reality could not be an emulation. Lots of speculation though.
radostin04 ( @radostin04@pawb.social ) 1•10 months agoI’m not sure if this counts as a conspiracy, but I wholeheartedly believe that aliens are real, but that we have no way of ever contacting them or confirming their existence because they’re so damn far away
lily33 ( @lily33@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months agoIndeed not a conspiracy. A conspiracy involves a crew of conspirators conspiring to do something illegal or unethical.
If it’s just the laws of physics conspiring, it doesn’t count.
Kalash ( @theKalash@feddit.ch ) 0•10 months agoNot sure that even counts as a conspiracy.
li10 ( @li10@feddit.uk ) English1•10 months agoYeah, surely it’s only a conspiracy if there’s proof of aliens that’s being hidden from people.
pH3ra ( @pH3ra@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoMy own personal conspiracy theory is that Flat Earthers, Anti-vaxxers and all the other “Facebook boomer” conspiracies are just a strategy to discredit other “more real” conspiracies: if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job you’re bundled with people that believe that Earth is a frisbee and smart people don’t want that so they keep themselves from exploring anything else.
Also aliens fucked apes and that’s how we got here. theshatterstone54 ( @theshatterstone54@feddit.uk ) 3•10 months agoYeah, It’s like the theory that Gates put microchips in the vaccines. First, your phone already does the job. And second, the actual conspiracy going on is that billionaires funnel their money through charities they own, and then make donations to influence the media and scientific research in their favour.
pH3ra ( @pH3ra@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoDonations don’t get taxed. So if you own the charity you’re donating you get your own tax-free income
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•10 months agoI mean, the caveat is that you can’t legally pull money back out of that charity. It’s got to be used for the stated charitable purposes.
mayonaise_met ( @mayonaise_met@feddit.nl ) 3•10 months agoSo if I believe the earth is flat I’ll be bundled with people who believe 911 was an inside job is what you’re saying?
homoludens ( @homoludens@feddit.de ) 1•10 months agoConspiracy theories are pushed by the state because it makes them seem powerful, when in reality they’re often fucking morons. /s?
Mojo ( @totallymojo@ttrpg.network ) 1•10 months agoI just cannot fathom how flat earthers can believe what they believe.
I like the theory that we were “planted” on Earth very long time ago by advanced beings.
pH3ra ( @pH3ra@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoI like the theory that we were “planted” on Earth very long time ago by advanced beings.
If you want to know more, meet me tomorrow at the docks
Krackalot ( @Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•10 months agoThat’s the fake meeting. The real one is under the docks at midnight.
redballooon ( @redballooon@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months agoJust because conspiracies likely do happen on a regular basis doesn’t mean that any popular conspiracy theory has found one.
Remember, the big conspiracies like Watergate or the NSA leaks where not uncovered by conspiracy theorists. They where not uncovered by cherry-picking factoids from public government statements and “doing ones own research” aka using Google. They were uncovered by whistleblowers speaking out and journalists double-checking and following up on information they were given.
As a side note — the poor boy with this scumbag father who constantly lies to him.
ArtyTester ( @ArtyTester@artemis.camp ) 1•10 months agoThe Helen Keller conspiracy feels like it could be a real.
Rocky60 ( @Rocky60@lemm.ee ) English0•10 months agoAbsolutely none of them.
None? Pretty sure if you look into them you may think one of them may have something to it…
Searched for random ones that are know for a while:
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