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AstronautOlympian ( AstronautOlympian@partizle.com )  to TechnologyEnglish · 3 years ago

Netflix Tests Killing Off Its 'Basic' Subscription

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Netflix announced its ending the Basic plan for Canadian subscribers, and new or rejoining members can no longer access the $9.99 tier.
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  • TommySalami ( TommySalami@lemm.ee ) 
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    Just more enshittification. Glad I cancelled last month, you don’t get to tell me who is or who isn’t in my household.

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      They’re cashing out and running the brand into the ground. Sure they may technically gain some new subscribers by cracking down on password sharing but their shows will be receiving millions less views because of this and everything else they’re doing. It’s all typical short-sighted please the share holders bullshit.

      • ArcticCircleSystem ( ArcticCircleSystem@beehaw.org ) 
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        Is there anything for tv and movie streaming that isn’t at risk of enshittification and isn’t illegal? (I don’t feel like getting a scary letter from my college or their ISP) ~Nai

        • pbjamm ( pbjamm@beehaw.org ) 
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          Sign up for a free Proton account and use their VPN.

  • okbin ( okbin@kbin.social ) 
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    and i’m testing the seven seas. arrr! 🏴‍☠️

    • CCatMan ( CCatMan@lemmy.one ) 
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      Aaaarrrrr! 🌊🛶

    • artic ( artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Arrrr

      • hemmes ( hemmes@vlemmy.net ) 
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        Aye!

  • brokensprocket99 ( brokensprocket99@kbin.social ) 
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    Roughly $200 a year. You can buy a very large external hard drive for that price…which would be a much better investment.

    • Entropywins ( Entropywins@kbin.social ) 
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      Don’t forget a year subscription to a vpn

    • greenskye ( greenskye@beehaw.org ) 
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      I have a very high end plex server. I think all in between VPN, Usenet, hardware costs I pay roughly $60/mo. But that gets me all the content I want, organized exactly how I want it, and nothing disappears on me. No need for 3-4 subscriptions, multiple apps, etc. And that service works for my entire family and I can easily make offline copies for trips.

      Now all this does require pretty significant time investment. It’s less now, but there were multiple very long research sessions and troubleshooting that I had to go through. I would absolutely pay for a service that was marginally close in ease of use just to not have to be my own IT, but it doesn’t exist.

      I pay for streaming music. It just works and I (usually) don’t feel like maintaining my own music library is worth it. I pay for all my games, because Steam just works. I pay for all my ebooks because they just work. Streaming video by comparison is hot garbage. Just a complete morass of exclusive content, shitty apps, poor user experience and stupid policy decisions.

      • pbjamm ( pbjamm@beehaw.org ) 
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        100% agree.

        Steam works. Spotify works. These things are worth paying for because they make my life easier. When Netflix was the only game in town and had content from everywhere it was a fantastic service. Then every studio decided that they wanted all that money for themselves and started their own service. Since that time it is nothing but fragmentation, degraded service and confusion. Streaming Video seems to be in a race to oblivion.

        • Festivity8529 ( Festivity8529@beehaw.org ) 
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          Spotify buy out popular podcasters and force them to use their platform and this results in publicly available Podcasts going behind a centralised platform. This over time will cause the death of Podcasters.

      • ɔiƚoxɘup ( Quexotic@beehaw.org ) 
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        I really need to get into Usenet but don’t know where to start. Any recommendations?

      • ɔiƚoxɘup ( Quexotic@beehaw.org ) 
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        I really need to get into Usenet but don’t know where to start. Any recommendations?

  • nzodd ( nzodd@beehaw.org ) 
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    Guess I’ll just… Stop paying for shit ever again. Already set up a nice Jellyfin server with 16,000+ movies in anticipation of this garbage move so I’m good for the next 43 years assuming one movie a day, every day.

    • Hangry  ( kurogane@lm.helilot.com ) 
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      On an unrelated note, how much data storage does it take to host 16,000+ videos? I’m curious

      • nzodd ( nzodd@beehaw.org ) 
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        I have about 36 TB dedicated to this project with maybe 4 or so still free so around 32 TB.

    • AbeilleVegane ( AbeilleVegane@beehaw.org ) 
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      How did you download so much? Radarr lists?

      • nzodd ( nzodd@beehaw.org ) 
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        Mostly some custom scripts for scraping yts.mx, cross-referencing imdb for e.g. top 50/100 box office for each year (https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?year=${YEAR}&title_type=feature&) and automatically uploading to and downloading from my seedbox. Tried radarr but it wasn’t really my thing. They’re all basically garbage 1080p encodes but for their size they’re passable enough for me, and my goal was a large library for discoverability not a small one for quality, so it worked out perfectly for that. Also been checking r/opensignups (RIP reddit) for good trackers when they have open registration for the occasional specific stuff that I want in better quality.

  • Stefen Auris ( stefenauris@pawb.social ) 
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    Just throwing it out there that large hard drives are inexpensive and there’s free software out there like jellyfin to let you play your own media on devices. Data acquisition is up to you of course but that’s not particularly difficult either. So just become your own streaming service!

    • jmp242 ( jmp242@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      I just doubt 10Mbps up is enough to actually stream content. And how do you deal with the Double NAT problem? I tried just reading over samba via zerotier, but it couldn’t handle 1080p, but that could be slow relays for zerotier connections.

      • nzodd ( nzodd@beehaw.org ) 
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        I’m not sure about 10 but 20 has certainly been more than enough for Netflix-level 1080p streaming in my experience (using Jellyfin)

      • dan ( dan@upvote.au ) 
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        10Mbps up is nowhere near enough, unless you stream very low quality (think 720p or highly compressed 1080p). High-quality 4K can get close to 100Mbps.

        • jmp242 ( jmp242@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          Ahh, yes, this is why home streaming is a no go - not good enough upload. And I don’t care where I get my media, I don’t want to deal with the hassle of cloud hosting and whatever legal papers I’d need for that, given that ripping a DVD is still illegial.

  • Beej Jorgensen ( beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    Netflix is my go-to for streaming services. Mainly because there’s a dedicated “Netflix” button on my Shield remote that I keep hitting on accident.

    • HolyHell ( HolyHell@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
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      Remap it to something that’s actually good

      • Beej Jorgensen ( beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        Whoa–there’s an app for that! https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/10/30/shield-tv-remote-remap-netflix/ Thanks!

        • HolyHell ( HolyHell@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 
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          Yeah it’s great, I’ve got my YouTube button mapped to smart tube next.

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        Remapped it to Jellyfin app on mine. Kind of ironic :)

    • Kurama ( asjkk8@lemmy.ml ) 
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      the only regret I have is the inability to bind my jellyfin app to my remote Netflix button.

      • nzodd ( nzodd@beehaw.org ) 
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        Ha running into the same issue here with my Roku TV.

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        Depending on what TV you use, it might be possible.

    • Moonrise2473 ( Moonrise2473@feddit.it ) 
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      there was a redditor that was insisting that it was Nvidia paying Netflix millions and millions of dollars for the privilege of having a dedicated netflix button on the remote, and not the opposite, Netflix paying Nvidia millions of dollars to have a sponsored button the remote

    • noraselene ( noraselene@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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      That’s actually a common habit when you have a dedicated Netflix button on your remote! But if you’re looking for a more flexible option beyond just one app, Photocall TV is a great alternative. Instead of relying on a single platform, you can instantly access a wide range of live TV channels directly from your browser. It gives you more variety in content, from news and sports to entertainment, all without needing a specific app or button. Visit here: https://photo-calltv.es/

    • dan ( dan@upvote.au ) 
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      I do the same thing all the time. Need to figure out how to remap the button to load TiviMate instead.

      As a side note, I really wish Nvidia would release a new Shield. I just ordered a new one yesterday because honestly, it’s still the best streaming box.

      • noraselene ( noraselene@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        Netflix testing the removal of its “Basic” subscription shows how streaming platforms are shifting towards ad-supported plans and higher-priced tiers to increase revenue. In a time where access to content is constantly changing, many users also look for flexible ways to save and manage their favorite videos. Tools like Snaptika make it easy to download and keep content available anytime, giving users more control over how and when they watch

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    I presume ad-free will eventually take over with the same price, after the other 2 plans increase.

    It’s likely with the household changes we will see an end to the old plans that were based on screens and we will have 2-tiers, ads & no-ads.

    Netflix will only get more expensive from here and the ad plan was always meant to make the ‘Premium’ plan look better.

    • alongwaysgone ( alongwaysgone@beehaw.org ) 
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      I just dropped ours down to 2screens, for now…I still think we may well cancel fully. But, we’ll see.

      • Briongloid ( briongloid@aussie.zone ) 
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        I went 2-screen Turkish account for $4/m, works fine in Australia.

        • curioushom ( curioushom@lemmy.one ) 
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          Uh, say more about this… Do you have to have a Turkish credit card/address?

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            I set up with my local AUD card, after my Natflix AU was no longer active with a subscription, I bought a Turkish gift card for the first month, with the original AUD debit card still being on the account.

            My bank doesn’t charge fees for foreign charges.

            I also just bought the ad-free cheap month, then asked Netflix to revoke it and refund me.

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              Interesting, thanks!

  • Elyssa ( Elyssa_Greensley@beehaw.org ) 
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    I’m currently testing the Netflix “Killed Off” subscription plan. 0.00 a year and ad free!

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    Netflix just fucking sucks now. It has killed me off it’s service. We have been subscribed since 2012 and I’ll occasionally search something I don’t have on my home media server and the search will autocomplete what I’m typing, but not actually show the content I want. It will display some other related garbage. I can’t imagine paying monthly and suffering through ads for this experience.

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    Heh. I (US) cancelled this morning and they tried to offer me basic as an alternative to cancellation.

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      We see you don’t like the best version of our service how about you try the worst?

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    The more anti-consumer shit they pull, the more of my friends I get to join my Plex server, for marginal cost since more users barely means any more used electricity.

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      Yo. Can I get in on that? ;)

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    Cancelled Netflix. Its simply not worth it anymore.

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    I’m not surprised. Now that Netflix can no longer rely on cable and broadcast to produce its content for pennies on the dollar, Netflix is going to have a hard time paying for its catalog.

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    Netflix Tests Killing itself FTFY

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    They’re trying so hard to lose my patronage, but they forgot I cancelled last year.

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