• I love reading and writing, replying and interacting. The quality of discourse around here has been excellent so far, the right kind of people have migrated here.
        Fully granted that there are many topics in which I’d love to see more activity, but the space is young. Neither Rome nor Reddit were built in a day.

        Also, a way to keep track of conversations, an unobtrusive notification and a direct link to the spot in any given thread.

      • I actually deleted my main account on Reddit a few months back because the toxicity in any comment I posted started to weigh me down (even in the r/Australia sub, it became clear that a lot of people there likely weren’t Australian).

        I’ve noticed things have degraded even more there in the past week, and in the Aussie subs, most of them have gone fully toxic.

          • Idk, I acknowledge it must be a pain in the ass to know whether you can call someone the equivalent of “dude” or not, but I feel like that one’s fair. When you recognize something utterly mundane is a high insult in someone else’s culture, you kinda stop using it towards them unless you intend the insult.

            I sure as shit wouldn’t just drop the honorifics with a middle eastern/asian stranger or walk around their house in street shoes just because doing so is unremarkable where I’m from.

  • Honestly, at this point I don’t see any coming back from this. It’s been a damned good effort, but Reddit isn’t going to back down at this point. The mods are going to have to put up with it or leave. I’d hope they’d leave, but honestly I don’t think there’s going to be a mass exodus of moderators.

    But maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised

  • That ship has sailed, both ways I’m afraid.

    Not only reddit made it exceedingly clear that they aren’t backtracking, 3rd party developers equally clearly stated they are out.

    I don’t see this situation reversing.

    • Well, the Apollo dev sounded, from the second-hand stuff I’ve read, to be out. I’m not sure that all of them necessarily are out.

      I don’t have really high hopes for a reversal, though, agree with you there.

      • I know rif is shutting down after June 30, and Sync will be redirecting people to Sync for Lemmy. A few others are going subscription-only, though none I used, so I’m not sure offhand which/how many.

        Either way, it’s a lot of changes all around.

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    Nope… Spaz isn’t going to get my money.

    He blatantly treated us all like crap:

    1. He acted like he was doing us all a favor, and acting like he was a charity. Reddit doesn’t even need much bandwidth or resources as it’s a text site essentially. They’re still making a lot of profit.
    2. He doesn’t acknowledge that Reddit’s value is in the community. Reddit themselves are their content. They basically just admin the servers and throw ads up. Spaz isn’t exactly contributing thousands of articles, but lots of people are
    3. They don’t pay mods. But finally, when the mods get fed up with Reddit, he took credit for their hardwork by hijacking those communities when they objected
    4. He went full Elon… And…
    5. He went full Trump when he accused the Apollo developer of blackmailing him. If he wasn’t lying, he would have posted more of the conversation. The apollo developer should actually sue him for trying to damage his reputation
    6. Finally, the beauty of the fediverse is that we can choose our community. Whereas, Reddit decides if they want to allow toxic communities and people. The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish (and eventually I believe into real life)

    I actually deleted my main 7+ year old account (no idea exactly how old) a few months ago on Reddit, because it had grown too toxic there. Really happy with Beehaw, and really excited to see where Lemmy / KBin ends up in a few years time. Already donated to Beehaw

    • The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish

      Ironically, 3rd party apps like Sync allowed you to block entire subreddits from appearing on your r/all feed. I used that feature a lot to block out junk subreddits that I have zero interest in.

      • Yeah… I was a relay user (removed it yesterday finally).

        But, what I mean is that these people who acted that way on those subs, basically got the OK from Reddit to act the same way on every other sub. Reddit never took the hard approach against them. They just pretended to.

  • One thing about open letters is they almost never accomplish anything. It seems Reddit is digging hooves into the turf on this thing. If they were going to budge, I think they’d be doing it about now. There’s only a few days left before the lights go out.

    • I agree and even if they revert the changes some people just won’t go back. They did so much more damage to their reputation since the original issue of API changes.

      Reddit won’t die as some ignorant people hoped for, but enough people migrated to create something new.

      • I was watching the Vergecast podcast yesterday, and Reddit has basically ghosted Verge for any comment on their part.

        They said that they’d “Correct them when they need to be corrected.” Otherwise the only people Verge is talking to are users and moderators.

        Reddit staying classy as ever there. /s