“We went from hero to zero pretty fast.”
Oh, shut the fuck up CDPR.
Besides the ocean of technical issues that are mostly fixed now, the game is not even a tenth of what Mike Pondsmith and CDPR drooled and parroted the whole decade prior to its release.
It’s a beautiful looking FPS with enormous production values, PS2 era AI, no joke Vice City has a more lively world, and it has Assassin’s Creed Valhalla’s depth for it’s “RPG” systems. Even when you accept the puddle deep experience and try to like it for what it is, the game gives a huge “fuck you” with how offensively quick the game ends.
As someone who loves the CP TTRPG and was an idiot to trust Pondsmith and CDPR, hating on C2077 was something that came from inside me.
It really annoys me how companies started leaned into blaming “haters” for any kind of criticism. Especially considering how quickly some people turn on whoever says anything critical of something they are hyped for.
It wasn’t really meant to be a game, it turns out. It was just a Hype Delivery Vehicle.
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YangYe sold out so hard for it… then it came out and it was broken. what a fucking clown.
The bugs were the best thing to happen to that game.
Why? Because it distracted every insufferable zoomer and stole all the oxygen away from the completely lacklustre gameplay, narrative, and design.
Man, I hate when companies play the victim and try to tell us why we did/didn’t like something. I wasn’t following a fad, I was reacting naturally!
You’re allowed to rush out an incomplete game, destroy your reputation, and lie to your users; none of that is illegal. But I’m allowed to not like your game, vocally, and stop buying your products in the future…
Yeah. If they can literally pay for thousands of Ads saying the game is “X”, why is it rude for us to claim (as a single individual) that is was not so.
Thing is they do it because it works most of the time. Most gamers have the memory of a goldfish and they’ll read that statement and go “yeah I guess it wasn’t that bad” and keep giving people that constantly lie to them money. That’s unfortunately how it is.
lmao that game was so bad they removed it from Playstation’s online store, but yeah I guess “it wasn’t that bad”
Edit: here’s “not that bad” according to CDPR: https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/gautoz/status/1407006269047771151#m
It blows my mind so many gaming podcasts I listen to glossed over that when it happened. Like, it was so freaking bad they removed the game from the store, inhibiting anyone from purchasing it digitally. And everyone in the industry covered it like it was just any other bad, poorly launched game. No, it was extremely bad; truly broken in myriad of ways.
It bears repeating that the game was removed from the PS store because no other game had ever been handled that way.
To be fair, the “it wasn’t that bad” line is a quote from the journalist, not CDPR. What the VP of PR actually said is "“I actually believe Cyberpunk on launch was way better than it was received.” His point probably being that the game wasn’t as unplayable as the uproar would suggest if you played it on specific platforms. Obviously it was very bad on old-gen. The hate train was definitely as big as the hype train, both of which were ridiculous.
What? I had it on PC, and there were enough bugs in that it frankly was unplayable. The reception wasn’t just a matter of “oh it has issues on PS4”, come on, and it was absolutely deserved.
Because it wouldn’t run on older hardware.
The thing is that the “older hardware” in question included the then current consoles the game was advertised and released for.
Yeah that was shithaus. They should have just apologised and explained that it would be on the new gen hardware, and could have avoided all that.
Oh, to hell with anyone who has an attitude like this guy. Consumers stating their displeasure about an overhyped, incomplete game IS a “cool thing”. Taking advantage of consumers, and then framing yourself as a victim, IS NOT a “cool thing”.
The FTC needs to get on this. Promising something awesome, then selling a buggy, broken mess, should not be the norm.
hmmm it’s almost as if releasing an incomplete/broken game is bad for business/reputation and seems to cause a tough row to hoe to gain back gamer’s trust… weird.
Insert Principal Chalmers it’s not me meme.
Epic bullshit. Hacking was missing, cyberspace was omitted completely, essentially half the content in a typical Pondsmith game was just not present. And most of the quests in the game just ended abruptly, indicating they were cut short.
CDPR, nobody is buying your bullshit. Just suck it up and move on and BE BETTER. Be like you used to be.
I definitely followed all of the marketing and was expecting about 3 or 4 more skill trees, more meaningful choices in side quests, and generally a more living world. Plus like, 20 hours of gameplay that got cut out and turned into a cutscene.
Honestly, I’d say I actually enjoyed cyberpunk more because of the public backlash, because I had such low expectations that when I borrowed it off a mate - I was blown away by how fantastic it actually was
If the Phantom Liberty update does the same, I’m hopeful it’ll be the expansive sendoff that Blood and Wine was for The Witcher 3."
It’s interesting to see them mention the Witcher 3 considering that also had a messy launch and it’s fair share of bugs.
And now is remembered as one of the best of the genre. One can only hope for such a thing to happen again with Cyberpunk 2077. :D
I’d heard that they’re redoing the first one. Hopefully that’s true, because I was never able to get it to run well on my PC. And when Witcher 2 came out, it was XBox and PC, and I’d switched to PS. :/
Oh, then why did CDPR apologize for it?
https://www.engadget.com/cyberpunk-2077-apology-video-roadmap-updates-2021-220043550.html
Shit I can’t stand – people fucking up, apologizing for it, and then later insisting they didn’t fuck up. People plead guilty to shit in court then try to retcon it. People who write essays about their behavior and then later say they didn’t do it. This shit here. They fucked up, they said they fucked up. The followup for this shit needs to be: Were you lying then or now?
well he’s not 100 wrong. But also, they are 100% to blame themselves for that. They took advantage of the goodwill they earned with Witcher 3 and went out of their way to hide the last get versions of the game because they knew it sucked.
Ehh, I’d say they are maybe 20% right about that one, the gaming community just piled on top of it like it was the most irredeemable pile of trash ever.
The thing is the other 80% of that story is them telling upfront lies about the game, them intentionally hiding that it was literally unplayable on consoles, and even now years after its launch after numerous updates and bugfixes the game is still just a shadow of what it could have been.
It’s a fun good game but the thing I think about most while playing it is usually about missed potential, “damn this could have been so much better”. Maybe Phantom Liberty and the free update improves this, I really hope it does, but the game is a mess of gameplay mechanics, terrible progression loops and empty open world.
the gaming community just piled on top of it like it was the most irredeemable pile of trash ever
The past gen versions were so bad that they got pulled from digital storefronts. Literally unplayable. They knew this, as evidenced by not a single reviewer getting an advance copy for those systems. They knew and they happily took consumer’s money.
Pretty trash, imho.
No, it was pretty bad. I was the moron that bought it for PS4. It performed EXTREMELY bad. Refunded immediately.
Marketing machine hyped this game up beyond belief and i bought into it.
I came back to it on PC and after all of it’s patches up to the path tracing update and it works much better now. Played through the story and it’s pretty good but we’ll see if the phantom liberty expansion ACTUALLY revamps what they say it will.
Once again it’s a lot of big promises.
I bought and refunded this shitshow of a game TWICE before it was finally stable enough for me to play more than ten minutes without a crash, heinous levels of glitching, or a game-breaking bug.
Fuck right off with this “oh it’s just some sillypants that like to complain!”
What platform did you play on?
This game is incredibly polarizing in that people playing on console tended to have a horrible experience (and rightly so), whereas it was not generally a buggy mess on PC at launch.
Two different PCs and eventually Steam Deck.
So now we’re on the “Blame anybody and everybody BUT ourselves” stage. Lovely. <s>Because OF COURSE the consumers are wrong to be unhappy about misleading-to-outright-false marketing selling them a product that didn’t actually exist outside of the marketing pages (like a game that was playable on XB1/PS4. ZING!)</s>
Hype culture needs to die in a fire. Preferably one fueled by all the cash that’s going to the marketing departments.
