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I blame the removal of pensions and replacement with inadequate 401k plans.
Social security was never meant to be a retirement plan.
Maybe it should be. Decoupling retirement and Wall Street would probably let us take a more honest look at the costs and benefits of for profit corporations in our society.
We need regulations (laws) to make them viable for retirement.
A forced match plus a 10% pay paid for by the employer.
Most people just can’t save enough in a 401k to make it solid retirement program. You’re capped at little under 20k a year. I may mine every year.
I wouldn’t even mind a national pension plan or something similar.
The current system isn’t viable for many reasons.
My mom is retired but she has two pensions and social equity plus some other income. She’s in a rare spot that she’s very comfortable in retirement.
The amounts have changed. For 2023, the current 401K maximum is $22,500, and if you are 50 or older, $30,000.
For 2023, the total contributions you make each year to all of your traditional IRAs and Roth IRAs can’t be more than: $6,500 ($7,500 if you’re age 50 or older), or. If less, your taxable compensation for the year.
Cutting the budget to come up with an extra $28,000 is the hard part.
I’m not eligible for a Roth and I don’t get a tax deduction for an Ira. I do roll over my 401k into an Ira when I go to a new employer.
The amount change ever year but they really don’t amount to a good retirement.
agreed. retirement and healthcare should not be tied to employment. Want a snazzier retirement. Fine that is 401k/ira material. Retirement plus health insurance should be enough to pay for a retirment home private room where you won’t be molested (i.e. - pays enough that folks don’t want to lose their job)
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 12•10 months ago
401k plans are ripe for abuse by predatory financial advisors… a smile and a wink and your grandpa’s retirement is getting drained.
They should cut back on avocado toast and get rid of cable.
“Fuck you, I got mine” turns into “Fuck, they got mine”.
Maybe voting just for soi and against vous wasn’t that clever after all? Will they stop voting Republican?
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 13•10 months ago
Yeah it’s like Republicans are not going to help you, other than enflaming culture wars and talking about woke. When they funnel all taxes and assets to the wealthy, and deregulate all industries, and make vaccines illegal, etc, all you’ll have left is a tattered red hat and a shopping cart full of your belongings.
It will literally continue to be like this until they die out
The best thing we can do is get them out of office.
Have they tried trickle down economics or maybe pulling themselves up by their bootstraps??
Anyone here who comments about how they deserved this fate or how they got what was coming to them needs to grow the fuck up.
There are very, very few people in this world who have done something bad enough to have this kind of condition even be remotely justified. They’re gonna either be on the streets or in basic Medicaid nursing homes for the rest of their lives. Many will get beaten and robbed. Many will probably just commit suicide to avoid the nightmarish conditions. And people here are celebrating this?!
Newsflash, the baby boomer generation are also people who also deserve to have someone give a shit about them. You people are sick.
Ugh, I just knew what this gross comments section was gonna look like.
Look, whatever perceived collective guilt an entire cohort of humanity has in your view, it’s really disgusting to celebrate and gloat over a report about the elderly becoming homeless.
When subsequent generations decide they have the right to dance on our graves for whatever it is they decide we did, I hope your ghosts aren’t too whiny about it.
If we made life significantly worse for our next generations, then they sure as hell should dance on our graves.
Oh no! It’s the consequences of my own actions!
In other news, popcorn and confetti sales skyrocketing!
“over-50 demographic”
Hey, hey, hey, don’t group all of us in with those assholes…
Enjoying the trickle down of piss? This is what you wanted
Bruh they were and still are brainwashed by so much anticommunist propaganda. They had to survive in those material conditions, and if they made it they had to buy into the lie of American Exceptionalism for their prosperity and not the Dollar becoming the worlds reserve currency and propping up European Social Democracy, Dictators, and Kings. They reaped benefits they were actively being kept in the dark about, if they are waking up cause piss is tricking down their face, i will still celebrate them waking up. We need all the people we can to wake up and realize how the elite have stolen from the working class and are only taking more and more as we continue to kill our planet to give them more wealth…
Cognitive dissonance is really strong if you have to question the way you were living your whole life when questioning the current situation. This makes those people far more likely to be easy prey for far-right propaganda than to be waking up, I’m afraid.
Because there were so many Baby Boomers alive during the Great Depression…
Wait, the people who caused all of this are now suffering the consequences? Oh no, whatever will at do?!