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tomasz ( tomasz@lemmy.ml )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 4 years ago

Should poverty ever be a defence against a charge of shoplifting?

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Should poverty ever be a defence against a charge of shoplifting?

tomasz ( tomasz@lemmy.ml )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 4 years ago
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  • Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) 
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    If people feel the need to shoplift, chances are they aren’t being provided for by society. I would look to wages and employment first.

  • marmulak ( marmulak@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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    In general I’d say no, but in cases of necessity such a defense should be applicable to reduce or alternate the consequences.

  • BlackLotus ( BlackLotus@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Yes, always. Shoplifting from anything but a good worker-owned enterprise is entirely supportable assuming it’s not just like a mom and pop with zero employees other than the mom and pop.

    The entire existence of capitalism is tightly coupled with mass worker exploitation through the theft of the surplus value generated by workers.

    Edit: I don’t even care if they aren’t in poverty, I still support them, especially from trash like Target.

    • AgreeableLandscape ( AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml ) 
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      If a person needs to resort to stealing essential supplies, they’re not a failure, it’s society that’s failing.

  • sizerz ( sizerz@fapsi.be ) 
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    It depends on what is being stolen. It’s a difference if you steal an essential food item or a bottle of perfume.

  • SudoDnfDashY ( SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Yes, if they are going without food or other essentials.

  • edward ( edward@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Yes, it should always be.

    And even if someone isn’t in poverty, shoplifting is just cool and based.

  • Quintus ( Quintus@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Food and clothing. Other then those, no.

  • m-p{3} ( mp3@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Only as a mitigating factor if the stolen good is an essential product.

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