It’s always the 30% uneducated racists, and 30% votes are enough to destroy democracy.
First count showed 15% AFD
UPDATE https://www.tagesschau.de/wahl/archiv/2023-10-08-LT-DE-BY/index.shtml
I think he added the % from the FW
Hmmm… I guess it’s not that easy. FW surely have some populist topics, like around energy, but mostly I would call them conservative centrists, with libertarian influence.
They are conservative centrists theoretically, but their leadership - which really is only one person, there is no other prolific person in the party than Aiwanger - has just in the last year questioned our democratic system and done nothing but use rightwing populist talking points. Not to mention the “Flugblattaffäre”, in which it was revealed that as a teenager he was involved in distributing pamphlets joking about the Holocaust, Hitler salutes, etc.
In proper Trump style he of course says he’s being prosecuted by the greens and leftwing media (lol) for “speaking for the small man”. And the worst part is, we see it works. The FW are now a rightwing anti-establishment party.
So you havent heard about the “Flugblatt Affäre” then?
More importantly: a few weeks ago some antifa terrorist smeared the duchess of Oldenburg with feces! Sadly I couldn’t find any pictures or videos. But this is her with a cake in her face
And the bad, bad, bad terrorist who committed this horrible crime
I never would’ve thought that a German state election would make world news.
It’s the very state in which the Nazis came to power the last time around as well.
Not to be too gloomy here, but Germany regressing into this shit despite decades of very clear and open education on the atrocities committed by the third reich should be world news.
This is a very bad situation and there are no solutions on the horizon.
Most of Germanys richest families have inherited their wealth from Nazi times. Many still think that way and somewhat control the media. I certainly can think of a solution.
There’s a kinda simple solution. Ban the whole fucking party. There’s currently a petition running to get the Federal Council to request the Federal Constitutional Court to examine a ban.
Which will only serve to harden the resolve of their voter base. You can ban the AfD, just like the NPD was banned. But these people don’t simply go away and stop existing, just because the party they’re currently voting for vanished. Instead, in the current climate of conspiracy theories and outright coup attempts by these groups, they’ll take it as proof of them being oppressed and will radicalize further.
I don’t think appeasement is the way, I simply don’t see an easy or simple solution to the political mess we’re in. Just like the AfD has zero solutions to the complex problems they pretend to be able to solve with “simple” solutions, none of the other parties have any functional approaches to dealing with the rise of the far right without alienating all those people that are supporting them.
First of all: the NPD was never banned, since it’s to small.
Banning the AfD effectively destroys it and buys more time to really solve the problem. Banning parties can be very effective. The ban of the KPD was so effective that even 70 years later there isn’t any established communist party in Germany.
Well, I remembered that wrong. But I don’t believe that banning the AfD will solve anything short, mid- or longterm. Times are quite different today than there were 70 years ago, so that’s not a great comparison.
I really wish there was an easy and complete solution to getting rid of the AfD and their ideology once and for all, or at least to a degree, where these kinds of parties don’t spring up again just a few years later to gain popularity once more.
The resulting radicalization of their voter base would cause quite a bit of damage, I am sure.
by now people who witnessed ww2 are an almost nonexistent minority and the modern people to replace them are unimaginative low iq blobs. it’s not like there’s a lack of information about that time in history. ☺️🖕 fuck afd
Already end of August
Can we please just finally ban the whole party?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Voters in Germany’s largest state, Bavaria, choose a new parliament on Sunday, after a very nasty election campaign in which populist upstarts have rattled the status quo.
Days before the vote, Tino Chrupalla, the co-leader of the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), was taken to intensive care after feeling unwell during an election rally in Bavaria.
Some local authorities are struggling with high migration numbers, and attempts by Mr Scholz’s government to introduce ambitious climate reform have been undermined by squabbles within his uncomfortable three-way coalition.
In rallies, Hubert Aiwanger, leader of the right-wing populist Freie Wähler (Free Voters), describes the new law as anti-democratic and rails against the “elite”, despite himself being Bavarian deputy-premier and economy minister.
Mr Aiwanger’s blunt style - to fans straight-talking, to critics dangerous demagogy - works well in beer tents and he makes even Bavaria’s boisterous premier Markus Söder look stuffy.
But in Bavaria the AfD and Free Voters together could get over 30% of the vote on Sunday, showing that hard-right populism is not simply an “east German problem”, as commentators sometimes claim.
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Voters in Germany’s largest state, Bavaria,
Bavaria is the largest state by area. It’s the second-largest by population, with some 16% of people living there.
