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Five ( @Five@beehaw.org ) 41•1 year agoThe police murdered a young student electrician for ‘refusing to comply’ with a checkpoint set up outside an Algerian ghetto. His capital crime he was likely trying to avoid arrest? Driving without a license.
This riot wasn’t caused by social media, or Nahel’s murder for that matter. It was caused by systemic racism in France. Macron is trying to scapegoat and shut down social media because the kind of peace we wants can be destroyed by truth.
Admin ( @admin@lemmy.magnor.ovh ) 25•1 year agoSystemic racism and a president basically giving cops licence to beat up, torture and murder. Elle est belle la république bordel.
Overlock ( @Overlock_@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year agoAs if JORFDOLE000047533100 wasn’t enough…
KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ( @KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@beehaw.org ) 25•1 year agoIsn’t rioting part of French pastime that predates social media by like over a century or so?
Anyway, maybe if he gets those domain name block lists installed on browsers like he wants, he can just shut them down altogether at any time.
Exaggeration207 ( @Exaggeration207@beehaw.org ) 14•1 year agoFrance has been a big fan of revolution since the late 18th century. They’re on their Fifth Republic and I’m sure some French people feel they’re overdue for a Sixth, just for the sake of keeping the tradition alive.
Five ( @Five@beehaw.org ) 16•1 year agoMeanwhile, the United States will have its 247th “If it’s broken, don’t fix it” celebration in three days.
Exaggeration207 ( @Exaggeration207@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year agoStrangely enough, the best 4th of July I’ve ever had was when I was in Lyon.
TMoney ( @TMoney@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year agohahahah
At this point, France should adopt the official moniker of “Protest: The Nation”.
Acting like this is new is like saying Russia invading its neighbors is “out of character”.
MRPP ( @MRPP@sopuli.xyz ) 22•1 year agoAn absolute wannabe authoritarian brute. The institution pushing back against outrage could (and probably already has) lead to a massive Streisand effect.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 18•1 year ago
What in the world makes him think that will work in France of all places?
cavemeat ( @cavemeat@beehaw.org ) 12•1 year agoI’m surprised that this guy is still at the helm.
ag_roberston_author ( @ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org ) 26•1 year agoWhen the alternative to him was Marine Le Pen, it’s hardly surprising most people wanted him and not an open fascist.
gaael ( @gaael@beehaw.org ) 25•1 year agoLots of us wanted neither, we juqt settled for 5 more years of “Macron the dipshit that is covertly racist” to avoid 5 years of “Le Pen the dipshit that is overtly racist”. And we hate every minute of it.
Bazzatron ( @Bazzatron@reddthat.com ) 7•1 year agoI feel that’s a lot of countries right now. USA didn’t want Biden, but it was better than Trump. The UK is facing an election where we’ll have to chose between Starmer or Sunak(?).
The system feels broken beyond repair.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year agoThe choice is between a perpetrator and a collaborator.
Personally, it doesn’t matter much to me how palatable a politician is when the end result is the same.
NattyNatty2x4 ( @NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year agowhen the end result is the same.
This bullshit again? Macron and Le Pen are not the same. Biden and Trump are not the same. Fuck outta here with this both sides bullshit
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year agoI mean, the way they present themselves is different. I understand that you think that presentation matters, but from where I’m sitting, it’s insignificant, because they’re using the power they have in ways that help the resurgence of fascists instead of stopping it.
We get conservative results even though we voted for progressive promises.
NattyNatty2x4 ( @NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org ) 4•1 year agoActing like I’m the one worried about presentation while you’re pretending their actions are the same is laughable. While Macron is a piece of shit, he doesn’t court dictators or push far right ideology. Biden is a neoliberal scumfucker, but he doesn’t court dictators, Christian nationalists, capture the SCOTUS with Christian activists, lead to millions of deaths by calling the severity of pandemic a hoax, foment and insurrection, etc.
Both being bad doesn’t mean one isn’t objectively, substantially worse. I’d advise you to progress past a middle school understanding of politics if you’re going to act informed on these topics.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year agoAlso, if seeing other people’s perspectives on these issues is upsetting to you, you have the option to block them.
NattyNatty2x4 ( @NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year agoSeeing an ignorant person’s perspective isn’t upsetting me, it’s just disappointing that this is as high as you seem to be able to reach. Also, edit your original comment if you want to add more; I’m not gonna have multiple convo threads with you and this is the last time I’m responding to a separate comment from the main one.
Kwakigra ( @Kwakigra@beehaw.org ) 4•1 year agoI’ve read that Macron’s party is responsible for the rise of Le Pen through use of the “pied piper” strategy similarly to how the Democrats supported Trump in the 2016 primary because they thought having just an extremist would make people feel obligated to vote for them however conservative they were because at least they weren’t openly fascist. If that’s true, the resurgance of the actual factual French Nazi party is Macron’s fault as well.
dark_stang ( @dark_stang@beehaw.org ) 11•1 year ago“We wouldn’t have civil unrest if the peasants couldn’t communicate!” - his thought process I’m guessing.
Lol, at first I thought this meant Riot Games. I think most players of League or Valorant are too busy throwing slurs at each other to leave the house and protest anyway.
And blaming video games again?
This is France. A nation that can barely go a decade without a major protest.
I’m now imagining Louis XVI weakly flailing his hands about, complaining that the Jacobins were driven to their cause because of all the violence they were exposed to while hosting LAN parties.
Maybe the real disagreements between Robespierre and Danton later on were regarding which machine was best, the Station de Jeu or the Fboîte. Some stragglers saying neither and it was something called “Ordinateur”.
(Apologies for my poor translations, French friends. Apologies also for making light of the situation. I know it’s serious. I hope you’re all safe.)
nzodd ( @nzodd@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year agoJacquard loom vs those crummy looms without cards that only losers use because they’re a bunch of filthy casuals.
gaylord ( @gaylord@lemmy.k6qw.com ) 8•1 year agoLol, lmao even. This is the future.
offthecrossbar ( @offthecrossbar@beehaw.org ) 8•1 year agoLol what a tone deaf thing to say.
You know what? I’m going to post about it even harder.
aaron ( @aaron@lemm.ee ) 6•1 year agoSpeaking as someone who has little familiarity with the situation in France aside from the basic facts, this reeks of blameshifting
TMoney ( @TMoney@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year agoIf books were the new thing, that’s what he’d be railing against.
biscuitsofdoom ( @biscuitsofdoom@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year agoIf video games are causing riots then why not ban everything? I forgot he’s a moron.
twilightmeow ( @twilightmeow@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year agowhere have we heard this before?
ArugulaZ ( @ArugulaZ@kbin.social ) 1•1 year agoThe person who’s responsible for the riot is sitting right there in your chair, Macaroon. You decided to pull a United States and let old people die in the streets instead of giving them the pensions they need to survive. People rightly concerned for their survival are angry, and you told them to eat dirt. (Wow, sounds a lot like the current Reddit situation.)