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Joliflower ( imgel@lemmy.ml ) Banned to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

KDE Plasma 6.0 Approved For Fedora 40 - Including Dropping The X11 Session

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KDE Plasma 6.0 Approved For Fedora 40 - Including Dropping The X11 Session

www.phoronix.com

Joliflower ( imgel@lemmy.ml ) Banned to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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  • GnuLinuxDude ( GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I’m really looking forward to Plasma6. I know gnome has its fans but I am really just a reluctant user. Every day gnome works against me and I have to resort to workarounds.

    Do I want to navigate, inspect, and manipulate my files quickly? I use dolphin.

    Do I want to have a convenient panel to get a very quick glance of my currently running programs as well as a place to pin my most commonly used ones? That’s an extension.

    Do I want sub-windows to always block their parent window, preventing me from interacting with the parent further? No solution.

    Do I want desktop icons? Do I want excessive notifications from common tasks my computer is doing instead of from my own programs?

    I have more complaints but I think I am making myself clear. Overall I do like gnome and it has good performance, but there are so many annoying aspects. KDE is itself not perfect. There’s enough reasons for me to continue using gnome over kde5. But that’s why I hold out hope for plasma 6.

    • jlow (he/him) ( jlow@beehaw.org ) 
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      I’ve been using Gnome for a long time, then Dash to Dock broke, switched to Plasma, not looking back __

    • RickyRigatoni ( RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Anybody else really hate how a lot of gnome programs have settings that are hidden in the optional gnome-tweaks program instead of putting them in the control panel or program preferences? I swear gnome3 is the only DE that genuinely despises its users.

    • TeryVeneno ( TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml ) 
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      What are your reasons to use gnome over kde? Most of the things you mentioned are reasons I use gnome over kde so I’m curious to know other perspectives.

      • GnuLinuxDude ( GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Overall I do think KDE is more cluttered. So I like Gnome’s streamlined appearance (even if it omits too much). I also think the desktop compositor and shell are really well made, (i.e. mutter and gnome-shell), so I don’t really have performance complaints.

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  • penquin ( penquin@lemm.ee ) 
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    I just want kde on Wayland not to have blury font with fractional scaling. It’s just unusable. Once that’s fixed, I’m all set to use it as my daily driver.

    • Joliflower ( imgel@lemmy.ml ) BannedOP
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      Fixed. Not backported since it requires a QT update. Fix is coming with Plasma 6. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446674

      • penquin ( penquin@lemm.ee ) 
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        Nice

      • heyfrancis ( heyfrancis@lemmy.ml ) 
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        What does the baby emoji and 27d means? It only shows in voyager

        • bamboo ( bamboo@lemm.ee ) 
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          Like the other guy said, it is indicator of new account age. I think there is a setting to turn it off if you dislike it.

          • dukk ( dukk@programming.dev ) 
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            General > New Account Highlightenator

        • roembol ( roembol@lemmy.roembol.nl ) 
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          It probably means the account is quite new

    • aname ( lauha@lemmy.one ) 
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      I have fractional scaling on current plasma wayland and don’t have blurry font. Is this a specific usecase?

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        Just your regular 27" 4k monitor. If I set it to 200%, everything is fine, but things are huge. I have to have it on 175%, and that makes the font very blurry. Also, any window decorations that are not default plasma get blurry, too. I’ve already posted about it in the kde instance and zamunda (a KDE dev) said it was fixed in plasma 6. So, I guess I’ll just wait it out.

        • Basso Daniele ( tiziodcaio@feddit.it ) 
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          I think you have to login and logout… For me it worked

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            Oh trust me, I do log out then log in, it just doesn’t work. I’ll try again to double check.

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    • Joliflower ( imgel@lemmy.ml ) BannedOP
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      It’ll have to now :)

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    • Limitless_screaming ( Limitless_screaming@kbin.social ) 
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      It does run on XWayland, or has that changed?

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    • jlow (he/him) ( jlow@beehaw.org ) 
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      Doesn’t the Linux version of Resolve only read/import (or export? I can’t remember) .mov or something that makes it more or less unusable? Has that changed?

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        • jlow (he/him) ( jlow@beehaw.org ) 
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          Thanks for the writeup, that’s far more advanced than what I need to do in my work sometimes __ But cool that it looks like there are options on Linux.

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        • justJanne ( justJanne@startrek.website ) 
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          Sadly even Resolve Studio doesn’t support h264 all-intra as used in Sony’s XAVC-I and XAVC-S-I on Linux, which sucks.

          With XAVC-I CineEI Slog footage the metadata is enough that Resolve treats it as Raw (in fact, it’s more flexible than braw). So losing this functionality really hurts.

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            • justJanne ( justJanne@startrek.website ) 
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              I still hope it’s just a driver or configuration issue, for now I just dual boot for resolve, but that’s obviously not a long term solution.

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    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Use kdenlive

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    I wonder if they consulted Plasma devs about it. Sure they said that they aim to make Wayland ready for Plasma 6, but it didn’t sound like it was an actual plan for 6.0. After all they got their hands full with Qt 6 porting, and there are still major roadblocks with completing Wayland support, while 6.0 is about to have its alpha release already.

    Knowing Fedora devs however, I suspect they didn’t. They switched to Plasma Wayland by default several Fedora releases ago, when it was in no way ready. I guess I will switch to a different distro when this time comes.

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      Yes, they did. Neal has been pushing for Wayland by default upstream for a while, and getting that in for Plasma 6.0 was and is the plan.

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      Or do what I do and don’t update for half a year. The previous version is supported for a month after the release the next-next version.

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        It’s still not enough time for KDE devs to fix all major issues with Wayland. It requires at least another two years in the oven.

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          Maybe. Depends on the usecase. I’ve been running wayland for a year or so without trouble. Using moonlight to another machine for gaming and such.

  • AutoTL;DR ( autotldr@lemmings.world ) B
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Plans were drafted in September to offer KDE Plasma 6 in Fedora 40.

    All of these releases should take place at the end of February to inaugurate the Plasma 6.0 desktop.

    Fedora 40 meanwhile should be out by the end of April and the Fedora KDE spin or those otherwise manually installing the KDE desktop will thus be able to enjoy the fresh Plasma 6 experience.

    Well, the FESCo members have signed off on the Plasma 6.0 plan and the X11 support removal is still included.

    FESCo members voted in this ticket to approve the Plasma 6.0 change proposal for Fedora 40.

    Separately being pursued as well for Fedora 40 is removing the GNOME X11 session support.


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