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NightOwl ( NightOwl@lemm.ee )  to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago

Biden Wants Arms Deals With Israel to Be Done in Complete Secrecy, Without Congress

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NightOwl ( NightOwl@lemm.ee )  to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago
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“I’ve never seen anything like it,” said Josh Paul, a former top State Department official.
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      Do whatever you want. You’re a person behind a screen as am I. You aren’t going to change my mind on this. I’ve heard it for the past 8 years with Clinton then Biden. I cannot vote for people who support a modern day holocaust

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          Man quit it with the “if you don’t vote for the guy I want you’re actually voting for the other guy”. I’m not voting for anyone. You want to secure my vote? Earn it. Don’t just be slightly less monstrous than the other guy

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            Who do you vote? The murderer or the rapist?

            Neither. You don’t vote for either. That is the answer.

            Then you spend 4 years roasting the imbeciles who installed the murderer/rapist as their leader.

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              You actually don’t vote for the president. Our vote is merely a suggestion. So vote freely and with confidence. Which criminal is your preferred president?

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                Who is more self righteous?

                The man who refuses to vote for the one aggressively funding genocide or the one who martyrs the world on the guy who is aggressively funding genocide because he is “the lesser evil.”

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                That’s right, All Israeli citizens are culpable for the bombing Gazan civilians. Therefore they are all valid targets to stop genocide.

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                  Not necessarily, you don’t have to consider them culpable so much as aware, and stuck between a hard place and some very sharp rocks. But I think it would very naturally rest on anyone’s conscience if they’re considering living in the land of Canaan so to speak

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              I told you my beliefs and I own it. You told me yours and you own it. Is this supposed to be some next level analysis, that I disagree with you? That’s usually how conversations work.

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                  Thanks you too

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          Why stop at here? They also want to let Russia destroy Ukraine. Both parties are going to support a genocide. Hell isn’t Republican supporting both?

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            vote for one genocides or two. wonderful.

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              Just leave the president box blank then. Or find an independent who aligns with your values. Make your voice heard.

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                I don’t disagree. Will continue to vote locally, even nationally if the candidates align with my values and will keep voting for third parties. I just cannot justify a lesser evil to myself anymore.

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            Nah man Russia is kind of old news, arguably there was a build up from years ago, and yeah feelings change over time, but if you ask me, nobody really needs to suffer…

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      Trump hates Netanyahu. He’s a fascist, but even he could see that Israel had no intentions of ever peaceably resolving the conflict.

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        There is no world in which trump would side with Palestine over Israel.

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