I don’t see a discussion thread for the recently concluded Attack on Titan anime series, so here it is. Mods, feel free to delete if inappropriate.
I need a 45 minute video explaining what happened
So I have a few opinions as a non-manga reader. Based on the comments I’ve seen so far, it seems a lot of readers who hated the manga ending were a bit more ok with how the anime executed it, specifically with how they changed Armin agreeing to Eren’s genocide plan in the manga.
My one minor gripe is how Eren/Ymir undid the titan change of the secondary/minor characters (Jean, Connie, Gabi, Annie’s/Pieck’s/Reiner’s parents, etc.). I feel like the impact would’ve been greater if only the primary titans lose their abilities, and the rest died. Jean and Connie’s conversation before they turned was amazing and them coming back made it lose its impact. Then maybe Annie and Pieck go into self exile because of what happens and only Armin and Reiner return as ambassadors. Oh maybe Annie stays for Armin.
Question for the people who are more knowledgeable: I get Eren and Armin conversing on the beach and Eren wiping it from Armin’s memory until the after the end, but when does Eren and Mikasa hiding out in the countryside happen?
Having just watched it last night, I had the same gripe as you did regarding the titan changes coming undone, but now I think it kinda works well with the shift in tone we get when it’s revealed that despite the events that took place, the cycle is doomed to continue.
There’s a real sense of optimism after the fight that I think is actually pretty important to one of AoT’s messages about how even if we’re trapped in these awful cycles, there are moments within those cycles where things can be good and worth living for.
code geass spoilers
Wasn’t expecting Eren to go the lelouch route.
Also the Schindler’s list moment was great.
Code geass executed it much better.
Tbf Lelouch was portrayed as a political/strategic genius, and Eren as a suicidal idiot, so it makes sense Lelouch’d pull it off better
It’s not about the characters pulling it off better but the story. Justifying all the plot holes by calling Eren an idiot doesn’t mean the plot holes weren’t there.
Best example of a pathetic breakdown from protagonist done well is actually the Death Note manga. They foreshadowed it from the get go and the story was fairly logical.
Yeah, fair enough. I personally am just happy that we got an ending that works and sticks to its themes. Could it have been better? Absolutely, but after Game of Thrones, I’m happy AoT was able to give us an ending that works as a bow tie. On the foreshadowing bit though, Eren was always shown to be prone to hatred and violence, so I dont feel like any of his decisions ever seemed out of character
Does it? Does the AoT ending work? It left massive gaps and stuff that made little sense.
It wrapped enough of the story threads up to be a complete story, and it made its statement on the cycle of war and hatred. Not all loose ends need to be tied up for a story to reach a satisfying conclusion
Let’s agree to disagree. I don’t think it’s a satisfying conclusion at all.
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It was the only logical solution if you ask me, Lelouch did that to redeem his mates/friends, so did Eren, he was not a full asshole, he was just so fucking stupid, and I think Isayama put that very clear.