For all the controversy over decentralized contact-tracing apps, data show that these privacy-preserving tools saved thousands of lives during the pandemic. National and international authorities must invest in the technology now.
Unfortunantly this kind of data will be misused. I remember there was a big push from my governemnt to use contact tracing apps. Only to find out later that police were using it in investigations.
Ah, figures. Thanks!
I had the assumption that most, if not all countries used the google/Apple tech, since my own country did just that, as well as the neighbouring countries here.
What government/country was this, out of curiosity? I thought the whole point of the local-storage-only approach was protecting privacy, so curious how it could be used in investigations.
Australia. Government funded apps, not the Google/iOS implementation. It’s been a few years so I was a bit confused on the details. It is not stored locally which is how it was used.
Do you have a link talking about that? I didn’t hear about it. If you use the iPhone or Android built in solutions it wasn’t possible to track users with them. Was it other apps that were giving your data away?
well, that’s the centralised implementation, which i also don’t like. iirc there’s a decentralised implementation where, instead of tracking your location and sending it to a central server, each device would have a uuid. whenever you come near someone, both of your devices would just swap uuids and take note of them, and if either of you catches covid, they can just open that list of collected uuids and use that to notify the people who came into contact with them. imo not only is this more privacy-friendly, but it saves infrastructure costs from not having to host centralised servers.
Unfortunantly this kind of data will be misused. I remember there was a big push from my governemnt to use contact tracing apps. Only to find out later that police were using it in investigations.
Got a source for that? The approach google and Apple implemented was completely anonymous, even with rolling identifiers.
It was not the Google/Apple implementation. They were government funded apps which used a centralised db.
https://thewest.com.au/politics/law-and-order/wa-police-accessed-contact-tracing-data-c-3118717
Ah, figures. Thanks! I had the assumption that most, if not all countries used the google/Apple tech, since my own country did just that, as well as the neighbouring countries here.
This is about decentralized, privacy-preserving contact-tracing apps, though.
Centralized apps are definitely a problem.
What government/country was this, out of curiosity? I thought the whole point of the local-storage-only approach was protecting privacy, so curious how it could be used in investigations.
Australia. Government funded apps, not the Google/iOS implementation. It’s been a few years so I was a bit confused on the details. It is not stored locally which is how it was used.
Do you have a link talking about that? I didn’t hear about it. If you use the iPhone or Android built in solutions it wasn’t possible to track users with them. Was it other apps that were giving your data away?
Australia. It was not the built in solution, but a government made one (SafeWA)
wow. what a farce. absolutely ridiculous. this is why people don’t trust governments.
The article mentions a centralized system in Singapore, TraceTogether: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55541001
well, that’s the centralised implementation, which i also don’t like. iirc there’s a decentralised implementation where, instead of tracking your location and sending it to a central server, each device would have a uuid. whenever you come near someone, both of your devices would just swap uuids and take note of them, and if either of you catches covid, they can just open that list of collected uuids and use that to notify the people who came into contact with them. imo not only is this more privacy-friendly, but it saves infrastructure costs from not having to host centralised servers.