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This is an issue especially for some married couples. Unfortunately some think because they’re married there is no need for consent now, that’s not the case. More people need to realize this.
Unfortunately, it even used to be law and not just culture, that consent was not required within marriages.
It’s been a long and uphill struggle but this seems like an important step.
I do find it frustrating that in these discussions, the assumption is often implicit that women are raped, and men are perpetrators. Which is extremely false and carries harms to men and boys who are victimized, or anyone including girls and women who are victimized by women. The MEP’s could stand to use more broad wording here I think.
I agree that the wording isn’t the best, as it does perpetuate the stereotypes you outlined, but at the same time the fact that it’s so heavily reliant on consent will give male victims a better shot at actually being treated fairly as now they won’t necessarily have to prove unwanted penetration happened.
For sure, improvements to law are likely to also benefit male-assigned victims. It’s mostly the wording I have a problem with- Believing that they can do better.
My question is why is this only being spelled out now? Hell, where and why did the contrary idea come from in the first place??? ~Strawberry
I don’t think I understand what you mean. Are you asking about the origin of patriarchy and rape culture?
I guess so. But mainly why that’s only being spelled out in law now rather than earlier. ~Strawberry
A mix between people actually wanting spousal rape to remain legal, people not giving a fuck about feeemale issues, people getting scared that “they can’t even talk to women soon without getting arrested” and probably a few other reasons that range from dumb to malicious.
A hundred years ago (give or take a few) it was quite legal for young children to work.
Go back a hundred more, and it’s slavery.
And this is just in the “western” world.
In summary: why “just” now? Because that’s how humanity works. And also, this (and any other “progress”) may revert in the future. Because that’s how humanity works.
“because that’s how it works” doesn’t explain anything about why that’s how it works, which is the thing I was asking about. ~Strawberry
It also may get better. Because that’s also how humanity works. We’re adaptive.
This is one of those “oh duh, no shit” kind of things where in reality… yeah, that probably does need to be said out loud. So fucked up.
it’s so disappointing that we need to spell this out for people
I’m disappointed we’re still framing it as an issue that only impacts women. Other than that I’m right with you, but see a lot of potential here.
that’s a good point I didn’t think about
In other news, the sun is up during daytime
rare Fine Gael W
What does MEP stand for in this case? I found lots of explanations that define it as Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing and another for Minimum Environment Price. Just a guess, but I don’t think either of those fit.
Members of the European Parliament
Member of the European Parliament
Members of European Parliament. Can’t believe no one answered you in a week, lol.
Actually, several people did. I guess they’re just not showing up for you. Thanks, though!
Member of European Parliament
I think I read somewhere that it’s Member of European Parliament
Member of European parliament
Like a senator in the EU
Not really - since the EU is a union of nations, and not a nation.
The US is a republic of states, so I kinda think the parallel is apt.
Member of the European Parliament
Member of European Parliament, I’m pretty sure.
Members of European Parliament or something along those lines