I’ll just edit instead!
- root ( @root@aussie.zone ) English67•10 months ago
Bed bugs.
Positive outcome would be no more having to burn contaminted possessions (or wash them in very hot water many times).
- athos77 ( @athos77@kbin.social ) 18•10 months ago
I was going to go with the rabies virus, but bedbugs is a solid choice as well.
- Kalash ( @theKalash@feddit.ch ) 18•10 months ago
Viruses are not animals.
- TonyTonyChopper ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) 9•10 months ago
Viruses aren’t even alive in the technical biological sense
- 𝚟➑𝚋𝚖𝚡³ ( @v8bmx3@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months ago
Right? 🤣
- Stoneykins [any] ( @Stoneykins@mander.xyz ) English10•10 months ago
Yeah I think any human-specialized parasite is an easy choice. Head lice? Fuck em.
- hanni ( @hanni@lemmy.one ) 37•10 months ago
I know you said that we shouldn’t say humans but I’m gonna say it anyway:
Humans.
Sorry.
- CameronDev ( @CameronDev@programming.dev ) 15•10 months ago
Would be interesting to tally up the negative impacts of removing humans as well.
Culls of invasive species would no longer occur, which would be detrimental in those ecosystems.
A fairly significant number of endangered animals probably only exist today due to human intervention and breeding programs (i am well aware that we probably made them endangered in the first place)
Cross breeds would be done as well, Ligers and Mules require humans for breeding. Although in fairness they are definitely not natural to begin with.
Many animals we have domesticated would be done for as well, most smaller dogs are completely, reliant on humans for food and grooming. Many cats would be okay, but some breeds are likely dead ends as well. Jersey cows would probably have a bad time as well, without milking, sheep might have issues as well?
Interesting thought experiment.
- Deebster ( @Deebster@lemmy.ml ) 10•10 months ago
Yeah, this is a good topic. I can add a few:
Short term, pets in houses, farm animals, etc will need to escape and start fending for themselves otherwise they’ll starve (or dehydrate).. Oops, I’d somehow missed an entire paragraph of your post 🤦♂️ Sheep need us to trim their wool, because we’ve bred them up grow fair more than they need. They’ll get too hot if they don’t have problems with defecation first (an actual thing farmers have to worry about).Medium to long term, when dams and dikes aren’t maintained they’ll eventually fail, flooding vast areas including the Netherlands.
I guess that the world will continue heating for a bit even once we’re gone, so we wouldn’t be around to theoretically use our tech to help. Obviously, we’re the reason it’s happening in the first place, but nature’s not equipped to deal with change that’s this rapid.
- 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 ( @sxan@midwest.social ) 6•10 months ago
Yes, most of those we created through breeding, but you could argue that wolves and coyotes created modern deer the same way.
I do wonder if many would go extinct in the medium term from predation, before they can evolve fast enough to adapt; I’m thinking farm pigs and chickens would be OK in the short term - they don’t need us to survive - but wild dogs/coyotes/wolves, large cats like the NA lions, raptors, foxes… they’d all be putting a lot of pressure on those mostly defenseless breeds. Pigs are not wild hogs. Cattle and horses exist just fine in their environments without humans. Even with predation, herds are large and they aren’t defenseless.
Sheep are an exception; like you said, they need us to perform maintenance because of how we’ve bred them. Are there others?
- Monkey With A Shell ( @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com ) 4•10 months ago
My thoughts go to a lot of our stored and operational fuel supplies. Nuclear fuel (both civil and weapon) would eventually become exposed through lack of storage container maintinance and cooling starting meltdown reactions in their localized environments. Oil extraction, distribution, and refining systems are automated to an extent but somewhere a tank is going ng to rupture or just run out of space and then it’s all getting into the environment, likely at sea to have what effects that may cause.
- 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 ( @sxan@midwest.social ) 1•10 months ago
Oh, yeah. If we suddenly disappeared, there’d be so many environmental catastrophes.
- Monkey With A Shell ( @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com ) 1•10 months ago
I’m sure it’d level off, but a driver falling asleep at the wheel on the highway tends to cause problems. If the BP spill in the Gulf had nobody trying to cap it off who knows how long it’d have kept going.
- Turun ( @Turun@feddit.de ) 1•10 months ago
Good point! Within a few weeks billions of animals would die. Chicken, pigs, cows, cats and dogs.
We definitely need to clarify what “good for the planet” means if we want to decide on the best answer.
- uphillbothways ( @uphillbothways@kbin.social ) 7•10 months ago
Humans are the only species that would ask a question like this with ecologically damning effects. So, yeah.
- arthur ( @arthur@lemmy.zip ) English5•10 months ago
Humans are not the problem. Ultrarich people are.
- Lumidaub ( @Lumidaub@feddit.de ) 7•10 months ago
Oh come on, really? Is the problem ultrarich people? Or is the problem poor people who won’t eat those ultrarich people?
- arthur ( @arthur@lemmy.zip ) English2•10 months ago
Touché. We need to do better xD.
- rwhitisissle ( @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months ago
I’m going to provide one very important reasons it would be disastrous to the ecosystem if humans were suddenly deleted from the Earth: what happens to the many currently active nuclear reactors? And what happens when Chernobyl’s sarcophagus finally corrodes entirely and exposes that radioactive blight to the entirety of Europe and central Asia? Probably nothing good is the answer.
- cole ( @cole@lemdro.id ) English2•10 months ago
I would be willing to put money on “likely nothing” being the answer for active nuclear reactors. They’re highly automated from a safety perspective these days. I’d be more worried about chemical plants
- rwhitisissle ( @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months ago
That’s a good point, too. My general idea was we have certain things we’ve created that we can’t leave unchecked or else it might be disastrous for the environment. Human infrastructure expects humans to exist.
- phorq ( @phorq@lemmy.ml ) 20•10 months ago
Canadian Geese, the animal that Canada stored all its rage inside and sent to battle the United States
- Blapoo ( @Blapoo@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months ago
How dare you. I live for seasonal goose fly bys
- pimeys ( @pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io ) 3•10 months ago
And Finland…
- TransplantedSconie ( @TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee ) 3•10 months ago
Cobra Chickens are one of nature’s wonders. Leave them alone!
- Otter ( @otter@lemmy.ca ) English1•10 months ago
Canadian geese, Australian Emus, sounds like there’s some interesting AI image ideas here
- Mothra ( @Mothra@mander.xyz ) 6•10 months ago
What have Emus ever done to you??? :(
- CameronDev ( @CameronDev@programming.dev ) 9•10 months ago
Not op, but an emu bit me as a child. Havent trusted them ever since. Just look at their shifty eyes.
- Otter ( @otter@lemmy.ca ) English2•10 months ago
Oh noo, I love them both :(
I got distracted by the wrong aspect of that comment lol
I was picturing Canadian Geese and Australian Emus working together on… providing aid or something. Maybe not waging war
- Mothra ( @Mothra@mander.xyz ) 1•10 months ago
Well they seem to have a reputation for winning battles after all
- CALIGVLA ( @Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English18•10 months ago
I hate to say it, but getting rid of mosquitos would probably have bigger consequences than that. The females are the only ones sucking blood, the males on the other hand help pollinate plants, exterminating them could potentially affect our food production lines…
… But not gonna lie I’d still genocide the fuckers, ecological damage be damned.
- Pyr_Pressure ( @Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ) 10•10 months ago
You don’t need to eliminate all mosquitos, just the ones that bite people.
There are dozens of different species of mosquitos, and not all of them bite people. If you get rid of the ones that bite people the others will likely still fill in as pollinators for those that are no longer competing with them.
- jol ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 3•10 months ago
Only the females of a tiny fraction of species, and only when they need to produce eggs, stuck blood.
- Kalash ( @theKalash@feddit.ch ) 15•10 months ago
Pandas. I mean, they really don’t seem like they want to exist in the first place. And China get’s to finally shut up about them.
- Otter ( @otter@lemmy.ca ) English8•10 months ago
they really don’t seem like they want to exist
Alternatively, they’re at peace and content with their existence. At least that’s what it seems like to me, goals really
- morrowind ( @morrowind@lemmy.ml ) 5•10 months ago
but they cute though
- 0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@infosec.pub ) English12•10 months ago
Cockroaches… as far as I’m aware, they don’t contribute anything to the eco system, they’re just pests.
Unfortunatelly, not even a nuclear war can erradicate them 😒.
- Catoblepas ( @Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 20•10 months ago
‘Cockroach’ encompasses a wide range of species, the majority of which have no interest in living in a human’s home, and contribute to the work of decomposition on the forest floor. Many smaller predators also eat them.
- 0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@infosec.pub ) English16•10 months ago
OK, just the pest ones then 😁.
- Catoblepas ( @Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 7•10 months ago
I’m on board with that 👍
- arthur ( @arthur@lemmy.zip ) English2•10 months ago
Some pests (not only cockroaches) keeps the sewage unclogged by consuming solids.
- 0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@infosec.pub ) English1•10 months ago
Oh, come on 🤣… people just have to find an excuse for cocroaches to exist 🤣.
- Devi ( @Devi@beehaw.org ) English1•10 months ago
I think they’re a good diet to some insectivores.
- 0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@infosec.pub ) English1•10 months ago
Cats hunt them sometimes… I mean, some cats 😁.
- Devi ( @Devi@beehaw.org ) English2•10 months ago
I meant more like lizards, hedgehogs, frogs, but yeah, cats too.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English12•10 months ago
Mosquitoes
- Omega_Haxors ( @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml ) 10•10 months ago
If you gave any random person god like powers to do whatever they wanted, they would immediately eradicate mosquitoes as their first act.
- SomeBoyo ( @SomeBoyo@feddit.de ) 7•10 months ago
Mosquitoes are pollinators. Sucking blood and being annoying is only a small part of their functionality.
- Birdie ( @Birdie@thelemmy.club ) 7•10 months ago
The bats would miss them.
Any change to the biodiversity on our planet will have a negative effect. What is a pest to you is food for another species, or a pollinator, or any of dozens of valuable purposes.
- SocialMediaRefugee ( @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml ) 6•10 months ago
Ticks and botflies. We don’t need maggots making a home in our skin. Even worse is what they do to animals like sheep.
Mosquitos are mainly an annoyance to me and I can deal with them.
- Devi ( @Devi@beehaw.org ) English8•10 months ago
Maggots are the things that breakdown dead stuff, without them you’d have dead animals and plants rotting on the ground for ages while the bacteria breaks them down slowly. I think the whole world would smell worse.
- SocialMediaRefugee ( @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months ago
These are maggots that get laid in your skin specifically. Look up “bot flies”
Fungi do most of the rotting anyway.
- JokeDeity ( @JokeDeity@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months ago
Humanity OFC-- oh you said not to say humans… Shit.
- PeWu ( @PeWu@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months ago
How nice would that be if humanity stopped existing…
- Gyoza Power ( @GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de ) 6•10 months ago
Hard to say. Mosquitos, is probably not one of them because even as much as we hate them, many animals prey on them, so unless other insect replaces them as a food source for those animals, them disappearing would probably affect many other species and subsequently, other species that may feed or depend in some form on those that feed on mosquitos.
My answer would probably be ticks, since I don’t think there’s many animals that feed on them and their only usefulness is population control, which should be doable by other species either way.
Edit: bed bugs as well, since it was mentioned by other commenters, I hate those fuckers and last I checked they weren’t any animal’s primary food source.
- Lorindól ( @Lorindol@sopuli.xyz ) 4•10 months ago
I remember reading some scientic article that examined what would happen if we eradicated the mosquitos entirely.
Surprisingly, they came to the conclusion that they’d just be gone and we would be a lot happier without the nuisance and the diseases they spread.
No other species is dependent on mosquitos as a food source, they could easily find enough to eat with them gone. Mosquitos apparently serve no known vital purpose in their ecosystems, although it was mentioned that males of some species have some little value as secondary pollinators.
- Gyoza Power ( @GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•10 months ago
That’s interesting. With how many of them there are and knowing that many species eat them, I would have expected that at least some of them would suffer in some way.
- Lorindól ( @Lorindol@sopuli.xyz ) 2•10 months ago
This was also my previous assumption.
- KingJalopy ( @KingJalopy@lemm.ee ) 4•10 months ago
Chiggers. Fucking hate those things.
- 👁️👄👁️ ( @mojo@lemm.ee ) English5•10 months ago
That is a dangerous word to say
- KingJalopy ( @KingJalopy@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months ago
Lol yep
- aroom ( @aroom@kbin.social ) 4•10 months ago
cattle.
- _TheThunderWolf_ ( @_TheThunderWolf_@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months ago
but preferably keep the wild ones