Again, cherry picking by only using mid sized HDDs against low capacity SSDs.
Ignoring this graph.
The 2tb HDD I have in my build list cost about the same as the 1tb Samsung m2.
At that point I might as well go for a 2tb ssd honestly.
12tb is mid size now? shame that this hobby got expensive so quick with larger drives costing way more than the usual midpoint
The trick is to get the lightly used 12TB drives from the people who just upgraded to 20TB drives.
But even if you buy new it’s not really expensive per se, the issue is more when expenses happen all at once. If you expect that $350 18TB drive in the post to last about 5 years, that’s $350/5/12 = $6/month, which really isn’t that bad (rough estimate assuming the value will drop to 0, and ignoring opportunity cost; also energy is free)
it’s still a big clump sum unfortunately. paying 400-500€ for one 18tb drive and needing two, that’s way too much money. i used to buy two drives for 500€ at most
The trick is to get the lightly used 12TB drives from the people who just upgraded to 20TB drives.
Good luck finding those in Europe. Second hand stuff is being sold here at almost new prices (or above new!). Been so many times that it was not worth buying second hand because the price difference was barely 5 a 10% vs New + 2 year warranty + 2week return.
M.2 ssd are tge biggest deal but i only have one slot
I’d assume there really isn’t much room for HDD prices to come down in contrast to SSDs since the latter always fetched a premium until the technology started becoming more commonplace.
they’ve barely moved in 4+ years though
I’ve got a Samsung 970 evo 1tb for 99 EUR in 2020. Last week (2023) I’ve a Kingston KC 3000 2TB for the same price.
This is not what I call “barely moved”.
depends on your area
I’ve bought a used Crucial MX500 250GB for 30€ in 2019.
Last week I got a Crucial MX500 1TB for 45€.
I can get a 2TB for below double-price but I only need 1 TB and I read that it has a different build with lower speed (lower TLC, smaller DRAM or something, I don’t know).
Exactly 4 years and certainly not barely moved.
they’re near 100€ here, but sure, 250gb was 100€ 10 years ago.
I think it’s simply a matter of physical limitations, we basically reached the physical limit of how hard disk work storing while ssd relie on microchips and we are becoming capable of making more and more circuitry in the same amount of silicon which makes it cheaper
in my country 1 tb nvme ssd are cheaper than 2.5 inch sata HDD of same size, and it sucks because my server is 10 year old and has only sata ports
If you consider inflation, they have come down kinda? lol
The timescale is rather short in the grand scheme of things and SSDs have been massively oversupplied in the last little over a year. We’ll have to wait and see how this develops, SSD prices could start to rise if the correct for the oversupply.
3 years ago I paid $280 for an 18TB Easystore this year I paid $200, both were the best deals of the year so I’d say prices are still coming down just more slowly than we’d maybe like.
Not only a short timescale, but one that starts in the middle of the very outlier economic conditions brought about by COVID and the responses to it.
Spinning rust storage prices are hold in place by the WD/Seagate cartel.
They can’t do the same shit with Samsung, Micron, intel, etc. in the game.
But large SSDs still seem to be really high priced.
Like I have 300TB on HDDs. The largest reasonably priced SSD seems to be the Samsung 870 QVO at like $300.
But I really don’t want to have to connect and manage 38 disks…
And at $300 per, that’s over $11,000
Meanwhile I could get 17 18TB HDDs for $3000.
Over $8000 cheaper which is a lot IMO, and 17 disks isn’t so hard to manage compared to 38 IMO.
They are getting cheaper, but because it is such mature tech, it doesn’t happen nearly as quickly.
A few years ago I bought 12tb drives for 199, and now 199 gets you 18tb. So for the same price you get 50% more storage.
few years ago that 199 was worth 20% more too 🤣
We make a product containing a 1TB 2.5" HDD.
Our cost price of a 1TB 2.5" HDDs have gone up over the last few years.
It is now significantly cheaper to buy a 1TB 2.5" SSD retail from Amazon than it is for us to by a 1TB 2.5" HDD wholesale.
However cheap 2.5" SSDs are often slower than 2.5" HDDs in some important use cases. A simple test of writing the entire SSD is often slower than writing the entire HDD (which is already not exactly fast when we are talking about 2.5" drives). More importantly cheap SSDs can randomly pause for a period of time… typically only a few seconds but sometimes more than 10 seconds while they do things.
Which is more susceptible to an EMP, an SSD or an HDD?
They have gotten low enough im considering flash arrays for homelab.
What’ll be extremely nice is when the price per TB is less on an SSD than a hard drive.
Might be a while, but I would gladly take SATA speeds if that’s what it meant to get to that price.
Well, it is still not comparable to the $/tb ratio offered by HDDs and I don’t really think it will be close to it in the future. Also, they are used for different use cases, so I do not see any reason to compare it now.
It’s cute how OP is comparing enterprise-grade HDDs with 5y warranty, with the trashiest consumer-grade SSDs with 2y warranty, some of which are QLC garbage that cannot be reliably used for long-term storage.
My thoughts exactly… and in Euro’s as well.
Compare them to US prices and WD Red’s and the picture looks a lot different.