Why wait for Microsoft to catch up with what we’ve been doing for decades?
Get Plasma, a modern, fully functional, clean, privacy-respecting, non-intrusive operating system now, regardless from where you live and ditch Windows for good.
Why wait for Windows to change when you can get Linux? ;)
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Also, if you live outside of Europe, you’ll be waiting very long.
Tbh. I don’t really mind this ad. :) Non-profit? Ethical software? More people should use it
Not an Ad. PSA.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I use #gnulinux and KDE, now #kdeplasma since “I don’t remember when” years, before the existence of #fedora.
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In fairness it used to be a lot of trouble to set up and maintain a Linux desktop. That hasn’t been true for years but the attitude didn’t come from nowhere.
“Set up” I agree, “maintain” not so much. From the mid-2000s onwards Linux tended to be more stable and easier to update than Windows, as I recall.
@Bro666 @holycrap
I install it from a USB stick. It’s not hard. Last time that took me less than 10 minutes. I’m not an IT person, never using the command line or any IT things.
Linux is not perfect, but very usable. The distro I use looks after itself. If anything does mess up, I can simply reinstall.
It is quite possible that my memory is from the slashdot era of comments like
“I put Linux on my laptop and then the wireless didn’t work and it took me 3 hours on the help forum . .”
I’ll take Things That Didn’t Happen for $500, Alex
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I personally know a lot of bioinformaticians that run linux on their desktops. If you live in the terminal you don’t wanna be bothered with all Windows bs and linux comes with everything you need. Most don’t even care about the DE that much.
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Been wondering about jumping ship to Linux after I got some hands on experience through the Steam Deck, but I hear that they don’t have the same wide compatibility with various Hardware, plus there are a lot of programs you can’t get.
If I want Clip Studio Paint, be able to play games with anti cheat AND be able to stream comfortably with OBS and the XLR microphones I have… Can I reasonably expect to be able to do all these things without a hitch?
Have been trying Linux Mint on a spare laptop as a complete N00b. Can’t get a huion screen tablet to work, nor an older xp non-screen one. Only option I’ve found for software is Krita (which isn’t bad, actually), but no CSP.
Couldn’t get a controller to work properly either without having to install some stuff via command line / terminal, which I wasn’t comfortable doing (I commented about having to do this on another post elsewhere and some guy was like super aggressive about how I didn’t need to, and was lying apparently… 🤷 )
Other than that, it’s a been a pretty smooth experience. That’s not sarcasm, its genuinely been interesting experience poking about and giving it a go. May just not be ready for my use case yet.
That’s honestly comforting! Thank you for your feedback. I might consider it more. How difficult is setting up a dual boot or something?
I actually found the whole bootloader and how to dual boot thing a bit non-intuitive and generally unclear as to what I should do. But maybe that’s just me. In the end, as it was a spare laptop, I just went full Linux Mint, reasoning that I can always reinstall Windows later…
Thank you! I appreciate the honesty a TON
Since most people don’t use Linux, drivers and software aren’t usually developed for it. Although, a reasonable company would develop just in case or help you get a solution, it’s unusual. Most computers are supported, but there is very specific hardware that may not have support or you’ll find bugs.
I’d recommend you to search (and test with an USB in Live mode) about your hardware and ask in communities about this specific topics. There are music communities, movies, math, streaming, etc.
And no, I don’t think you’ll find anticheat support because most Linux users don’t want closed shady software modifying their kernel (but there are solutions being worked on).
drivers and software aren’t usually developed for [Linux].
This is not very accurate. Despite having a small user base, kernel developers add hundreds of drivers every new version, and the number of end user programs developed by communities (such as KDE and GNOME) and independent teams, has ballooned in recent years.
You’re right, I should specify that it’s mostly for niche hardware. But even though there are developers trying, sometimes those devices are barely usable or have bugs and/or vulnerabilities.
Sure. So the catalogue of natively supported software is large and growing fast all the time. There some more devices that need specific drivers supplied by the provider, and some are not supported at all. It just means you factor one more thing when buying hardware: Is there support under Linux? And that is not one half as hard as it used to be.
@closetfurry @kde Please be slightly more specific regarding “anti-cheat”. Do you play competitive shooter games? If yes, then you’re probably out of luck for those unfortunately :(
Correct there. Not super competitive as a person, so I play casually for fun
You generally need to get software and hardware that is compatible with your operating system and processor architecture. It’s true that the most used platforms will have the best support, but you have that problem with any OS.
And it’s also not like games with anti cheat generally don’t work with Linux. Proton+Steam does support Valve Anti-Cheat, Easy Anti-Cheat and BattlEye. It’s just that developers have to explicitly enable Linux support for EAC and BattlEye.
@closetfurry For Clip Studio Paint, Krita might be a very good alternative (and it also work on Windows)
For games, anti cheats are indeed still a huge pain :(
I’ve tried Krita, and liked it, but I prefer the workflow of CSP and don’t want to lose that ;_;
Try running it with wine. The pen pressure might not work tho still. Or maybe with a bit of tweaking it might.
I might try that. Thanks
How will people download chrome?
@elxeno @kde
Chocolatey. https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/GoogleChromeFirefox, preferably. Also done via Chocolatey. Web browsers for getting a software install is so stringy.
I used that before quitting windows, but it doesn’t help since u have to copy commands from the website to install chocolatey.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social “We turned your computer into a platform designed to bombard you with ads, full of useless bloatware, a system designed to pigeon hole you into using and paying for Microsoft products, which is unsafe to connect to the internet without an antivirus and which will break every time we force an update on you.” = What Microsoft would say if they were honest describing Windows!
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I wiped my drive and installed Linux on my primary deskyop the day I saw the first leaked screenshots of windows 11.
Never regretted it. And never going back.
Plasma is a desktop environment and NOT a OS. Might want to know whet you are talking about before posting.
You are right. Also, a desktop environment, at least from an end user’s perspective, is as part of the OS as a kernel, terminal, and its associated tools. We are just using the language that a non-techie can understand and act upon.
Either way, “operating system” is a woolly and ambiguous term that is hard to define precisely and changes meanings depending on who you ask. The common denominator in common non technical English seems to be “software that allows you to manage you hardware and applications”. If that is so, yep, Plasma fits the bill.
@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social A friendly reminder that Plasma is a DE and not an OS!
Loving your work btw!
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@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Never heard of Plasma, nor am I in linux ecosystem yet, but from brief googling Plasma telemetry and developer attitude towards it is concerning
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/f2bg69/kde_plasma_518_comes_with_builtin_telemetry_optin/
Been using it for over a year now and there’s just one slider for telemetry that sends them anonymous desktop/KDE apps usage data, and you can limit how much you wanna send them. And i personally haven’t heard of any controversy surrounding that. Also its opt in unlike windows.
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@jex @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social @radioactiveradio While its FOSS, the telemetry is a slippery slope, and a single module now is the sign of a direction they’ve chosen. The flippant attitude of a developer mentioned in that reddit thread is worrying to say the least.
I’m aware its a single example about a project I know nothing about.
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What flippant attitude? The part where they tell the poster to just read the source code? That’s not flippant that’s the exact answer to the question. If you don’t trust it just check out the source, it’s all out in the open. If you don’t like it don’t use it, same as the telemetry alsame as the desktop. FOSS is about choice, you can choose to use Gnome or fork KDE and remove the telemetry yourself. Or maybe just flip a switch and turn it off.
Edit: Also the whole argument about how the “average user can’t read source code” is useless. Remember when audacity put ‘actually questionable’ telemetry in their code? Everyone was up and arms about it, distros still don’t provide the new updated versions of audacity in their repos. Now imagine that with KDE, it’s a much bigger project, any average user would figure it out with 5 seconds of reddit or a simple google search.
@shved @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Sorry, but this is a pretty opinionates post about a simple feature. Yes, KDE has Telemetry options. But these are entirely opt in, so unless you explicitely choose to send data you will never send data. The data that is being sent is fully transparent, as we have access to the source code. I belief it is mostly used for interface decisions (such as what window sizes are people using). So I cannot see the point.
@shved @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social is opt-in, not opt-out.
No telemetry gets collected unless you explicitly give permission (and they don’t nag or try to trick you into giving it). Overall, KDE is incredibly good for privacy
