!devshowerthoughts (community idea?)
!devshowerthoughts (community idea?)
Reddit, maybe you have a pretty shitty app?
Oh, they know. They just don’t care.
I’m sorry but this is the wrong attitude. His concerns are legitimate, even if somewhat poorly expressed, and they are just some among many. If Lemmy and the fediverse at large wants to grow and see wider adoption, there needs to be a way to tackle these issues, or be more transparent as to why they won’t be tackled in the near future, or never.
For what it’s worth, I am going to stick around despite the issues, because I see there’s a drive to improve and so I expect Lemmy and other fediverse platforms to get better with time, while I expect reddit to keep getting more and more worse with time, and I’m done taking that abuse.
I see you’re a person of culture :)
Judging by your taste, I recommend Spiritfarer OST. And obviously the game itself. It’s beautiful.
The profile is deleted, and if you created content on other instances with it, that content will still exist, but they’ll be headless, yes. Which IMHO, is the least of the problems. The bigger problem for me is that, although content you created on other instances should be fine, all the content on your own instance is gone. AFAIK, there’s no effort to preserve content across the fediverse.
If there’s no solution to mirror content between instances, as people realize that, I believe people will just resort to populating content on a few of the more popular instances, effectively getting us back to a centralized (or semi-centralized, anyway) setup.
Of course, that (E: I mean, having it hosted on less popular instances and that instance eventually shutdown) would probably not be a big deal for more niche communities, but technology, for example, is a big one - there was some people on a few tech related subs on reddit pushing for people to scrub all their comment history reasoning that this would hurt reddit, but the other side of that argument is that it would probably hurt users just as well: there’s a lot of tech troubleshooting solutions nowadays that you can’t find anywhere else on the internet, only on reddit. Now think about this a few years down the line - Lemmy has taken off and there’s a lot of tech related content on it. Then an instance with a lot of tech related content goes under. All that content is gone too, and this time it was not even by the user’s choice.
Not saying that Lemmy is not viable, though. But there are a few problems to figure out.
Thanks for the info. I heard about kbin in the past couple days, and had yet to see how it looked like.
Visually, I like it a little bit more than the currently available lemmy themes. Looks a bit like a “modern” old.reddit, albeit also suffering from a little blankspaceitis. And the fact it’s written in PHP… well… 😒. But since it can talk to Lemmy, it doesn’t really matter, I guess.
It seems to be hit and miss at the moment. It’s something I’ve asked on beehaw support in this comment. Also, as the other user mentioned, those links (both yours and the ones I’ve used as examples in my comment) are broken in Jerboa, although they work on the web app.
More importantly, Tildes is invite-only at the moment (for signups)
So, I was looking into a thread on lemmy.ml with some community recommendations for reddit refugees, and it seems there isn’t a standard way to link communities in an instance-agnostic way?
For a start, it doesn’t seem like the posting interface automatically recognizes community links (so if I write /c/programmerhumor@lemmy.ml, it automatically becomes a link to that community), so it seems you need to manually format the text as a link. So in order to have /c/programmerhumor@lemmy.ml, you need to write [/c/programmerhumor@lemmy.ml](/c/programmerhumor@lemmy.ml)
. Is it correct, or is there some straightforward trick I’m missing?
Moreover, it seems like not all communities are accessible from beehaw? Like https://lemmy.ml/c/nomanssky clearly exists, but accessing it from here as /c/nomanssky@lemmy.ml returns an error. Can someone clarify what’s happening?
It’s not pedantic. There IS a difference, and it’s relevant in this case.
but I get the feeling spez is looking for attention/validation.
Is he though? His last comment on Reddit as of this time was 10 months ago. I don’t think he really cares, if anything he’s being pressured to do it (and possibly doing begrudgingly) because he’s the more known “face” of reddit.
E: I’m not defending spez, btw. What I mean is just that I think it’s likely he’s an unwilling participant in all this. Reddit is just a source of income for him, he doesn’t care what happens to it. He probably would rather be cruising on his yacht or whatever, than doing this AMA.
Right? There’s no way in which this doesn’t end poorly for them. Nevermind that they started this debacle by shooting themselves in the foot, they just keep gleefully shooting it even more, it’s insane. Either the investor money is such a huge pressure that they don’t care, or they just completely lost touch with reality. Or both.
I’m gonna grab some popcorn tomorrow, this will be a cool friday night tragic comedy to watch.
Oh, I agree with you. Whatever happens here, it won’t mean an exodus en masse from Reddit to Lemmy ( or to any other platform for that matter) on the immediate future. Reddit will bleed users, only in a long timescale.
I’m not as sure as you are about how things will play out exactly, so for now I’m just watching the situation with curiosity. But I’ll say this: while the majority of users don’t care, those who DO care I (want to) believe are also the ones that generally tend to generate higher-quality content, while those who don’t care (again, I want to believe) tend to be either lurkers or generate lower quality content, although the split here might be closer to 50/50 - we don’t know. But in that case, one likely scenario is that in one or a few years Reddit will have so much low-effort and low-quality content that it will just naturally lose any appeal, and people will move on to something else.
I’ve said it (with a different wording) on some post on reddit, I’m saying it again here: I want history to repeat itself. Not because I have a sadistic need to see reddit fail, but because this will ultimately be better for the users.
All of these protests are a nice sentiment, but I can’t help but think the take I’ve read from some people is right: this is all a “door in the face” technique from Reddit to get people to accept a more reasonable compromise on pricing that they were going for all along, but without taking as much of a PR hit. So people will be relatively happy, and meanwhile reddit will have squeezed redditors just a little more, as they have been doing little by little in the last years. It’s a boiling frog scenario.
So this protest may well “reverse” this specific situation, but it won’t reverse the general trend on governance on Reddit that has been slowly going on for a few years already, mostly around the time that Victoria got canned.
So, to that end, I really want to stop using reddit regardless of the outcome of this debacle. Lemmy seems promising, although it does have its own set of problems. But it’s still on its infancy, I’m sure it’ll grow and at least some of these problems will be fixed.
That’s a mouthful. Isn’t there a nickname we can use?
I don’t think it was unintended in the sense that the admins didn’t expect these consequences. At least to me, on their posts they seem very aware that what they’re doing is very damaging, but they were stuck with choosing between the lesser of two evils, and they choose what was going to keep them more sane for now.