• We’re defederated from the worst offenders. Do you have an account on an instance that’s federated with Lemmygrad / Hexbear? Because it’s bad.

    For what it’s worth, we have a local tankie group at one of our college campuses nearby that really sucks in a lot of people from the queer community. They’re pretty much all universally combative, dominate any political space they’re in with “Voting has no point, just stop voting (shockedpikachu.jpg when fascists take office, consolidate power, and make life hell for minorities)” or “I’d rather vote for Trump to accelerate the decline of the world so the revolution is easier / faster” or “The holodomor was a Ukrainian man-made disaster to make Russia look bad, therefore wasn’t a genocide, and you’re a racist for believing it was”. Fortunately once they get off campus and into the real world most of them chill out, but Eternal September means they’re a constant menace to our local queer community.

    Are they as big of a problem in the US as conservatives? Not remotely, though there’s some surprising overlap in their support of Russia that might make them a scarier force than expected. They’re still worth bitching about and deriding though.

    The rest of the world, though? Russia and China are literally committing genocide, right now, and these people are cheering that on. There’s some European parties who are gaining in power who align with pro-Russia, pro-China goals. They might not be the main threat, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t a threat.

    • I’d rather vote for Trump to accelerate the decline of the world so the revolution is easier / faster

      It always astounds me that people who have enough intelligence to read so much doctrine (some of which does have value) give in to such ends-means justification. The “revolution” is not inevitable, nor is its victory, nor is its success in making life that much better. Sacrificing others’ lives and well-being in the here and now has zero justification because there’s no guarantee that it will make any situation any better. They’re just zealots

      • For what it’s worth, the people I knew IRL who said this did end up voting and did not vote for Trump, but I still wonder how damaging that rhetoric could’ve been if people hadn’t been willing to argue with it.

        But yeah, that was a mind-boggling shouting match conversation to have.