No one (sane) is defending the Hamas, merely noting that when your counter terror operation has managed to kill more innocents than the terrorists maybe you should stop and rethink your operation a little bit. If some people break into your house and hold you at gunpoint while they fire a rpg that gets shot down by an active defense system, i don’t think that you’ll be very happy the the governments only response is to blow up your house a half hour after they’ve left.
Actually, yes. Throw the word “terrorist” around as much and as ignorantly as you want, but the extremism of groups like Hamas has its roots in the decades of zionism running rampant and killing thousands of their people every year.
Clearly both sides want the other wholly and completely gone. That is, the extremist leaders. I’m sure the viewpoints across the general public varies wildly on both sides and is fed by their own internal propaganda.
My question is, why do any of us outside that region care? If you are not from that region, or do not have some kind of ties to that region, then why should anyone care so much what they do to each other? And I don’t care about religion. “Oh its a religious area so Christians care or something.” That doesn’t justify meddling over there.
It’s exhausting to be concerned about suffering. It’s literally happening everywhere all the time for so many things. There’s an endless stream of bad news where people are suffering and those in charge aren’t really doing anything at all.
Sooo are you one of the people who will then in the same breath deny that this is also the goal of Hamas?
No one (sane) is defending the Hamas, merely noting that when your counter terror operation has managed to kill more innocents than the terrorists maybe you should stop and rethink your operation a little bit. If some people break into your house and hold you at gunpoint while they fire a rpg that gets shot down by an active defense system, i don’t think that you’ll be very happy the the governments only response is to blow up your house a half hour after they’ve left.
Actually, yes. Throw the word “terrorist” around as much and as ignorantly as you want, but the extremism of groups like Hamas has its roots in the decades of zionism running rampant and killing thousands of their people every year.
Yep, there it is :D Can you do me a favor please and go back LARPing in /pol/?
Clearly both sides want the other wholly and completely gone. That is, the extremist leaders. I’m sure the viewpoints across the general public varies wildly on both sides and is fed by their own internal propaganda.
My question is, why do any of us outside that region care? If you are not from that region, or do not have some kind of ties to that region, then why should anyone care so much what they do to each other? And I don’t care about religion. “Oh its a religious area so Christians care or something.” That doesn’t justify meddling over there.
I care about all the people everywhere at all times.
Peoples humanity and worthiness to continue existing does not decrease in inverse proportion to their proximity to me.
It’s exhausting to be concerned about suffering. It’s literally happening everywhere all the time for so many things. There’s an endless stream of bad news where people are suffering and those in charge aren’t really doing anything at all.
Hmmm maaaybe it’s because of the immeasurable amount of human suffering amongst the civilians in that region? What the fuck kind of question is that??